Hi All,
I have a 1968 Mercury, the compression, measured with a cold engine is 120 & 125 psi. The engine burns a lot of oil ( less than 100miles per pint) unless speed is kept down to 60'ish and revs moderated.
Barrel has been re-sleeved, bore is standard and looks to be in good nick (visually, no measurements taken). I am hoping re-ringing will improve the situation.
I spent a long time sorting a blown head gasket and sorting many top-end oil leaks so do not want to repeat. As a quick fix is it possible to remove Head and Barrel as a unit while engine is still in frame? I would glaze-bust by hand.
A further reason for the low compression is that the Cylinder head has a spigot recess. The barrel has no spigot. While the engine seems to run fine with this configuration ( and is easy to start!). I am concerned that the top ring will be exposed to combustion heat and flame and may be damaged. Anyone have any thoughts/experience of this.
Best regards,
Chas
I don't think the spigot…
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Worn or loose inlet valve…
Worn or loose inlet valve guides can cause oil burning. The spigot recess will fill with carbon deposit in due course. Nothing to worry about there.
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The last time that I was i…
The last time that I was involved with a similar problem to that of Chas, the owner also had recently rebored the barrels but fitted cheapo pistons. Adding to his misery, both oil rings were inverted and pushing oil up into the combustion chambers.
You have to be very careful with the choice of piston, as badge engineering has changed some of the previously good brands into money wasting rubbish. Some are poorly manufactured.....being grossly over-standard weight and often round instead of oval.
The lack of spigot will only be a problem if the head gasket is leaking ......which does occasionally happen with the solid copper version. The lower compression should give the engine a slighly easier time when swallowing our grotty Ethanol laden petrol.
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Previously tony_harris wro…
Previously tony_harris wrote:
I don't think the spigot recess in the head will make the engine burn oil but you can turn a ring up to fit this and make the comp std.
If the barrel has been rebored I assume it was honed correct and if you fitted new rings it should not use oil. Are you sure the engine is scavenging, does it smoke?.
Tony
Hi Tony,
Rebore/Resleeve was done by previous owner. I have had the head off to replace a blown head gasket, but not stripped further. There are no Manufacturers identification marks on piston crown so cannot comment on this. I am currently doing a full rewire, with a view to an engine strip next winter, just looking for a quick fix on oil use.
Regards,
Chas
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My 99 has done a few thous…
My 99 has done a few thousand miles since a rebore many years ago,Since then It burns a bit of oil and a little smoke along with some piston slap . Some hard use in the IOM has changed everything. No slap ,smoke and an impressive increase in compression. Its now run in!!.
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Here you go, Chas.... http…
Here you go, Chas....http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/alloy-recess-ring-for-converting-spigoted-cylinder-head-to-non-spigoted_171.htm
These will resolve that issue. With regard to blowing head gaskets, it may be that the head needs skimmimg, as they can warp. I have just had mine done. It was .008" out. Ian
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Previously ian_cordes wrote:
Here you go, Chas....http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/alloy-recess-ring-for-converting-spigoted-cylinder-head-to-non-spigoted_171.htm
Will this ring fit a Mercury? The number 025494 is that needed for the early 750 Atlas engine.
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Previously Phil Hannam wro…
Previously Phil Hannam wrote:
Previously ian_cordes wrote:
Previously ian_cordes wrote:
Here you go, Chas....http://www.rgmnorton.co.uk/buy/alloy-recess-ring-for-converting-spigoted-cylinder-head-to-non-spigoted_171.htm
Hi Phil,
Yes above site is for Atlas (74mm) Mercury is 68mm bore - but guess RGM can oblige.
As I said in original post, I wish to fit rings to engine in frame without splitting head and barrel. Any comments on this?
Best regards,
Chas
Will this ring fit a Mercury? The number 025494 is that needed for the early 750 Atlas engine.
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You are right Phil, my mis…
You are right Phil, my mistake. Best check with RGM, or the other suppliers, to see if they do one for a 650. Alternatively, check out Norvil's part #990613 'Ring - Cylinder Head - Early 600/650 to Fit Later Plain Barrel'.
That sounds like it, doesn't it? I knew I had seen one somewhere!
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Yes, you can lift the head…
Yes, you can lift the head and barrels as one unit. Not particularly easy though. The fun bit is replacing them without damaging the piston rings. A helpful, strong, patient friend would be useful - the combined weight of head and barrels is considerable.
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I don't think the spigot recess in the head will make the engine burn oil but you can turn a ring up to fit this and make the comp std.
If the barrel has been rebored I assume it was honed correct and if you fitted new rings it should not use oil. Are you sure the engine is scavenging, does it smoke?.
Tony