As You may have seen in my 750 strip thread, my headstock is twisted out of the vertical axis with the centre line of the headstock being about 7.5mm to the left of the frame centreline at front iso bolt level. The frame is so flimsy being made of 1" dia mild steel tube, I would think that appling a bending force to bring it back into line would be almost impossible without causing some serious distortion to the rest of the frame. The strongest part of the frame is probably the welded joint beween headstock and spine and the other three tubes that are joined to the headstock. Anybody got any thoughts on straightening this twist?
Dave E
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As You may have seen in my 750 strip thread, my headstock is twisted out of the vertical axis with the centre line of the headstock being about 7.5mm to the left of the frame centreline at front iso bolt level. The frame is so flimsy being made of 1" dia mild steel tube, I would think that appling a bending force to bring it back into line would be almost impossible without causing some serious distortion to the rest of the frame. The strongest part of the frame is probably the welded joint beween headstock and spine and the other three tubes that are joined to the headstock. Anybody got any thoughts on straightening this twist?
Dave E
How did you establish this Dave?
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Simon, I set the rear Iso…
Simon, I set the rear Iso bolt and top of the seat loop (close to the top damper mounts) horizontal left to right. Set a steel straight edge down the centre of the frame ie centre between rear iso lugs and also centre of front iso lugs. fit bearings and 25mm steel rod in headstock. note the fact that the edge of the straight edge does not line up with the centre of the rod. finally compare with another frame.
Thanks Sam I'll give him a call
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Simon, I set the rear Iso bolt and top of the seat loop (close to the top damper mounts) horizontal left to right. Set a steel straight edge down the centre of the frame ie centre between rear iso lugs and also centre of front iso lugs. fit bearings and 25mm steel rod in headstock. note the fact that the edge of the straight edge does not line up with the centre of the rod. finally compare with another frame.
Thanks Sam I'll give him a call
You don't state what you used as vertical and horizontal datums to check your measurements against in two planes.
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You will find this article…
You will find this article interesting on the worlds straightest Commando:
http://www.vintagenet.us/phantom/wsc.html
Skip Brolund
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Wow. Skip - that's seriou…
Wow. Skip - that's serious work being done there. Now I realise why I sold my Commando and kept my Dominator. Though someone is bound to point out all the faults in a featherbed frame. Gordon.
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Sam, thanks for the advice…
Sam,
thanks for the advice, I spoke to Martin Russell and he advised me that the headstock would not be twisted but in fact the rest of the frame would be paralellogramed across to one side. This makes good sense as I have never been able to get the front iso bolt in easily. That frame, with it's nice new powder coating is in the naughty corner and I have a brand new, never been used 1970 frame about to be painted. 2 pac this time. Strangely, a guy I work with also said "if Martin Russell doesn't know, nobody knows"
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Thats good news David, at…
Thats good news David, at least you haven't spent any extra money. I also prefer paint to powder coat on frames, I've seen instances where water gets in behind a crack in the the powder and corrodes frame tubes.
sam
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A couple of observations o…
A couple of observations on the new frame, while the paint is probably 42 years old it's pretty poor and under the spine there is none. The iso mounting plates have seen no fettling after being stamped out and are (were) sharp. You know how paint runs away from sharp corners. The "naughty frame" previously had the problem with rust tracking along under the powder coating after a spill bent the seat loop up 5 degrees.
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Give Martin Russell at Rustler Racing a ring.He worked at BSA and is a chassis specialist, tel 0121 784 8266. If it's fixable, then Martin can fix it.
sam