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Looking for information about this 99ss

Hi

I have a 99ss, engine 96511. The original bike with frame number 96511 went new to Stephens Motors of Carmarthen, Walesand was sold new to someone closeby in Llanelli, Wales.

I'm in Canada, I have the engine in a non-matching numbered frame.

I'd love to know how it got here and what happened to the original frame.

Does this ring any bells for anyone? (I see this kind of query in the News but I have no idea how to get it there.).

Thanks!

Bruce

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Previously Bruce Mitchell wrote:

Hi

I have a 99ss, engine 96511. The original bike with frame number 96511 went new to Stephens Motors of Carmarthen, Walesand was sold new to someone closeby in Llanelli, Wales.

I'm in Canada, I have the engine in a non-matching numbered frame.

I'd love to know how it got here and what happened to the original frame.

Does this ring any bells for anyone? (I see this kind of query in the News but I have no idea how to get it there.).

Thanks!

Bruce

Sent to "News".

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hello engine number14-96511 was made in April1961 and all model 99ss have NortonManxman650 crankcases and camshaft pushrod and followers the rest was standard model 99 and they were fitted with coil ignition the barrels are somewhat different to the 650 ones so DO NOT TRY USING MODEL 99 BARRELS ON A 650 you will end up destroying the engine You have been told and to find out more about this motorcycle contact DVLA Swansea SA99 Vehicle history search which will cost you some cash yours anna j

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Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

hello engine number14-96511 was made in April1961 and all model 99ss have NortonManxman650 crankcases and camshaft pushrod and followers the rest was standard model 99 and they were fitted with coil ignition the barrels are somewhat different to the 650 ones so DO NOT TRY USING MODEL 99 BARRELS ON A 650 you will end up destroying the engine You have been told and to find out more about this motorcycle contact DVLA Swansea SA99 Vehicle history search which will cost you some cash yours anna j

Duly noted! Thanks Anna.

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According to the Webmaster no one is likely to remember without the original registration numbers which I do not have (not surprisingly as they mean nothing in Canada). I do have the last tax disc and know it was last registered in the UK in 1979 then brought to Canada. Surely if someone brought a 99ss to Canada around '79-'80 he/she'd remember?

The registration number is a curious one here as, back in the day, we would get a new "plate" every year from the MOT. The number on it just indicated where you stood in line when you bought it. Every year the number changed. Now we get a plate and a sticker every year to update it.

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The Web Master tells me the tax disk has the registration number, I see "83 GOC" - this is under the large date but is this correct? Is this the correct number? I notice other posts asking about old bikes and the number is reversed on those, letters first then numerals.

Can anyone confirm? Attached is a scan of the disk - the G, if that's what it is, is really hard to see.

Thanks!

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Hi,

That looks to be a valid format of registration number.

The following site may be of interest as it explains the historic formats of UK registration numbers:

http://www.cvpg.co.uk/REG.pdf

Based on a quick scan of the web-page the second two alpha characters ( i.e. OG) would identify the local area. A Wiki search indicates that 'O' identifies the areaas Oxford.

If I am wrong, I'm sure some-one will correct me.

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Previously Bruce Mitchell wrote:

The Web Master tells me the tax disk has the registration number, I see "83 GOC" - this is under the large date but is this correct? Is this the correct number? I notice other posts asking about old bikes and the number is reversed on those, letters first then numerals.

Can anyone confirm? Attached is a scan of the disk - the G, if that's what it is, is really hard to see.

Thanks!

Bruce; that is the registration mark. We ran reverse numbering in mid/late 50's in some counties due to the volume of registrations after the war. In 63 we went to a suffix letter and early 80's a prefix letter. That format was common, on mortorcycles in particular, of that period.

The bike may have been sold to a UK dealer who then exported it hence the lack of response.

Jon

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Thanks for the replies, I also received a private message with details of who to contact at the DVLC, I'll follow that up.

The previous owner told me the, other, previous owner brought the bike over with him when he went to work at a Nuclear Power site over here. He didn't know who that was so it's worth is???

I know from the NOC dating officer that it went to a dealer in Wales and then sold locally but after that? It could have been sold again or the owner moved.

A mystery!

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GOC is a Birmingham registration. Just from memory, registrations changed form AAA 111 style to 111 AAA in 1960 or 1961.

 


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