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Afternoon All,

Has anyone ever tried, or better still succeeded, to fit a rev counter to a Lightweight?  My Navvy is 12v positive earth with a Pazon ignition.  Ideally I'd like a Smiths style dial rather than one of the many modern neon red flashing LED items available for £0.99 off ebay!

Thoughts?

Nick H 

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I used a Triumph rev-counter gearbox, the sort the screws in to the crankcase, drive side, driven by the exhaust cam.  I used one of these because I had one!

Fitted it to the timing cover, positioned to be driven by the exhaust cam.

The Smiths style head is Indian and hopelessly inaccurate.  Its about right at 30 - 40 mph in top gear, useless at other speeds, if I've done the sums properly.

I took a Smiths chronometric off another bike to get some realistic numbers, speed vs revs, seemed okay.

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Yet another of my daft daydreams! Yes I've toyed with the notion in the past, so I'd had a rummage in my Norton detritus. 
Correct me if I'm (probably!) wrong, but l/w camshaft nuts are larger than Dommie ones, so their drive nuts for a tacho drive won't work. So what drive nut does fit a l/w? 

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Fascinating!  How does the rev counter gearbox actually engage with the camshaft?  Having looked online I see that the gearboxes have a protrusion that looks like a flathead screwdriver blade, which presumably slots into something to spin.  This forum is great!

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Nick H, you are right about the "screwdriver blade".  On the Triumph 750's it engages a slot in the "tacho drive plug" which, in turn, screws in to the end of the exhaust cam.  Or, I think, on late models it engages in a slot directly in the cam.

I made a special nut to screw on to the timing end of the cam, see photo.

Another thing I had to make was the nut/bearing that fixes the box in place.  On the Triumph its a left-hand thread, needed to be replaced with a right-hand thread on the Navigator.
I used a cable from a T140.

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Why not use an electronic one ?
I have one of these fitted to a Commando with electronic ignition. No nasty whirling cables with potential oil leaks.
https://www.smiths-instruments.co.uk/products/motorcycles-norton-nvt-logo-tachometer/

Andover Norton sell the speedo version (which I also have) so it might be worth asking if they can supply the tacho as well.

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... was my thought as well. There are some very cheap ones around but some say they only work on 4 cylinder engines.

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Those electronic Smiths replica tachos are very nice but expensive, ~£250?  Accurate and easy to set up.  I may "bite the bullet" and buy one for my next project.

I have one of those cheap electronic tachos off eBay, has anyone got one to work?   I have a couple, both given to me because they could not be persuaded to work. I tried both, neither worked, seems to be the usual story with them.

Having said that, I fitted one to an Enfield.  It worked, sort off.  It read double engine speed.  An electronics expert sorted that for me.

I mentioned in an earlier post that the Indian tacho was hopelessly inaccurate.  Sorting through a box of bits I have found a Smiths head but, unfortunately, wrong rotation.   At one time it was possible to buy a tiny gearbox that fitted on to the input of the head that corrected rotation and/or ratio.  Are they still available? 

 

 



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