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A friend of mine brought some headlight brackets to show me, cast aluminium, with the oval Roadholder badge on the upper part rather than below the forward protrusion of the steel examples.

Who knows which model they are from?

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Previously roger_jordan wrote:

A friend of mine brought some headlight brackets to show me, cast aluminium, with the oval Roadholder badge on the upper part rather than below the forward protrusion of the steel examples.

Who knows which model they are from?

Sounds like they are off long road holders. I have them on my 1947 350.

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Previously roger_jordan wrote:

A friend of mine brought some headlight brackets to show me, cast aluminium, with the oval Roadholder badge on the upper part rather than below the forward protrusion of the steel examples.

Who knows which model they are from?

Hi Roger,

The brackets that you are querying are the same as those fitted to a 1956 19S Norton that I owned long years ago.

Norton's fitted the Dommie 99 engine into the same frame as the 19S and called it a 77 I think also that it might have been finished in a silver grey enamel similar to the 88s and 99s sothey might possibly be from a model 77.

The earlier long roadholders mentioned also had cast aluminium brackets but the brackets drooped downwards in a curved shape.

Hope this is of some help.

Regards, Ian.

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Hi Ian,

So the fact that they were painted would disguise the fact that they were Aluminium then. I had looked at pics of Inters and found one with Aluminium brackets, but they had more of the droop shape that you mention.

Regards

Roger

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Hi Roger,

as it turns out, I own 2 bikes with those brackets! My Model 77 & my Nomad.

These were used on certain Long roadholder bikes with the pre-featherbed single downtube frames primarily in the late 1950's

All model of the swing arm single down tube Model 77 ('56-'58)

All models of the Nomad (finished in polished aluminum, no paint) "58-'60 500cc & 600cc.

The ES2 & Model 19s singles had them as well, but I am not positive of the exact years .

On all bikes that used them other than the nomad, they were painted.

My 1958/59 Nomad parts list shows these part numbers:

19340A: Top cover tube L.H.

19339A: Top cover tube R.H.

although my 1960 Nomad top cover tubes are marked with part numbers 19337, and 19338. A friends 1957 Model 19s & my '57 Model 77 are also marked with the 19337, and 19338 numbers.

Having said that, My Norton factory parts list for my 1957 Model 77 shows the following:

19340 (superseded No. L4/635) top cover tube, complete with lamp bracket L.H.

19339 (superseded No. L4/636) top cover tube, complete with lamp

bracket R.H.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Hi,I think yours brackets belong to Norton single between 1956-1958 and the curved alu brackets is between 1947-1955. My 1955 19s have the curved type. See Roy Bacon`s excellent book: Norton Singles.

Regards from Svein.

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Previously svein_marken wrote:

Hi,I think yours brackets belong to Norton single between 1956-1958 and the curved alu brackets is between 1947-1955. My 1955 19s have the curved type. See Roy Bacon`s excellent book: Norton Singles.

Regards from Svein.

Also used on some twins (see above) such as the model 77 & Norotn Nomad :)

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As Skip has stated the the part numbers on these items are 19337 and 19338 so I am thinking they are for the Nomad and Model 77.

I am also interested in the fact that they are marked PRM within a diamond shape. The Riley car company had their logo within a diamond shape. After Riley was sold to Lord Nuffield Percy Riley set up an engine and gearbox plant named PR Motors a descendant company is still running today as PRM Marine gearboxes in the West Midlands.

I wonder if it is the same company that made these brackets?

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Previously svein_marken wrote:

Hi,I think yours brackets belong to Norton single between 1956-1958 and the curved alu brackets is between 1947-1955. My 1955 19s have the curved type. See Roy Bacon`s excellent book: Norton Singles.

Regards from Svein.

Hello Svein,

I feel on the basis that Rogers headlamp brackets appear to be finished in silver grey enamel it's unlikely they would be from a single as I can't recall any that were finished in this colour.

The Inter' was of course silver grey but darker in the manner of the Dommie 88 and 99.

No, I feel as I mentioned previously that these brackets are almost certainly from a Model 77 or as somebody else has indicated possibly a Nomad.

Also as previously mentioned my 1956 19S had this type of triangular shaped alloy bracket as opposed to the curved type.

Regards, Ian.

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Looking at the the photos, I see they are not painted at all, but are unfinished aluminum. Which means they were most likely stripped of paint, as the Nomad was not sold in the UK, I doubt they are from A Nomad, but they are correct for a nomad.

So, the brackets will fit ES2, 19s, 77,Nomad, and poss. other models as well.

Skip

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The brackets are as Skip says, 'not painted at all'. There didn't appear to be any trace of paint on them, I had assumed that was how they had left the factory until Ian suggested that they would have had a coat of enamel.

I have sent my friend a message to ask if he wants to sell them, Dan.

Regards

Roger

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Previously Barry Carson wrote:

this alloy bracket came off my 19s. numbers within the bracket are

T 1074 with what looks like a PBM within a symbol.

These are not the same shape as the ones I am asking about, as they droop like others have described.

Regards

Roger

 


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