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Hello - advice on acquiring a Commando

Dear All, 

I've bought Paul Henshaw's book, and I've joined the NOC (even though I'm not an owner) as I'm looking for a Commando.  I want to ride it and make the odd trip abroad.  I'm not an experienced mechanic - but like to think I can follow instructions and am not looking for a concours bike.  My budget is £5 to £6k maybe more for the right machine - I know that this will limit the choice.

I prefer 'sportster' style looks with flatter bars - I'm fairly agnostic about 750 or 850 but appreciate the improvements (and disk brakes) as the marque progressed, but also being a newbie I haven't ridden one - but have ridden older brit bikes (Panther, Triumph and BSA).  One of my reasons for my choice of a Norton Commando is the engineering and the ability to stay with modern traffic.  I'm also still fit enough for a kick start!

I've been looking at bikes for the last year - but rather than me taking a chance on eBay or with a dealer I'd rather reach out to the club for some advice first - and of course if anyone knows of a good Commando coming up.

I know this sounds like one of those stupid questions that crops up from time to time - so please be patient.  

I'm based in North Yorkshire and hope to make it to an East Yorks meet.  

very best

Mick

 

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Mick, welcome to the club 
Try and get along to one of the local branch meeting venues (meeting places and addresses under the branches link) and introduce yourself. There will be a commando owner who can give you advice on what to lookout for and what questions to ask a vendor.

 

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ask for a ride via a branch meeting:  can then assess handlebar/footrest positions and general feel as you ride it. 
   Also talk to long term owners about the reality of having one. 
   In other words, how can you get ahead of your current info, to help make a more informed choice?

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Hi Mick,
its the Yorkshire Branch meeting tonight in Pudsey. We meet at the Marsh Pub on 2nd Tuesday of each month at 7.30pm Lots of us have Commandos and your welcome to come along and ask questions. Might even be able to arrange a test ride at some time. We also have an informal meet at Squires Cafe on 3rd Thursday of each month on our bikes (weather permitting) at 11am.

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Thanks all.  

Donald - I work in Leeds but live on the coast, I'm sure I'll be able to make it over sometime - I sometimes stop the night in Leeds.  Squires sounds good - I usually pop into Seaways or Clara's at Whitby on a Thursday.  I'll keep an eye out on the club page and make an effort.  

Peter - thanks - hoping to go to the east Yorkshire meet at Howden, think it maybe next week?  

Jan - great advice.  I want to go into ownership with both eyes open.  I think clubs are really important for this sort of thing and it would be great to at least sit on a few and see what appeals.  Also to pick up that extra info that has been learnt rather than read.  I was listening to a Dominator at the weekend that sounded very sweet - but I'm sure an experienced ear would know what to listen for!  Its that sort of thing.

Thanks all

Mick

 

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Dear Mick,
                 there are some known issues you should be aware of and may wish to avoid.
1972 models from engine number starting with a 2 have different yokes/ steering angle, they are more prone to 'weaving' than earlier or later models. Tyre choice can make it worse, you either ride slower or if you have deep pockets rebuild in later frame which can be identified by change in top shock absorber mount. Have a look on Norvil website under tech tips, there is a section under weaving.
      otherwise you are down to looking at condition of what's on offer, all are getting on, but many will have equivalent of service history of rebuilds and receipts  for parts. Obviously when going to look ask to it started from cold and try starting yourself, many on offer may have been stood a while.

Regards Martin

Ps 72 engines don't  have large sump filter for oil pickup, another issue as oil pump can pick up bits of metal, not an issue on earlier or later  models.

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I didn't know that Martin - I'll follow the thread on the Norvil site.  

I used to have a Ducati 748 and the head angles on that were adjustable (via an eccentric) so I understand how important that is on a bike.   Sounds like a wayward tea trolley must have hit the frame making jig!  No fun to weave down the road...

Shallow oil pick up - didn't know that either.  I had assumed that later engines had some of these 'gotcha's' ironed out.

Thanks 

Mick

 

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Dear Mick,
Lack of sump filter for oil pickup is only issue for 72 engines, casting was changed for 73 on to revert to old style filter that protects oil pump.
Regards martin

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Thanks Martin,  are there any visual clues?  I'm guessing that the most reliable way of dating the engine is looking up the serial number against a registry?  Difficult looking through the 'ads' as they usually have the date of registration.

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... the Mk2A 850 was the pinnacle, with most of the early faults sorted out.

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Thanks Ian - I'll do some reading up!  Will be interesting to see if that starts a new thread on the 'best'!

appreciated

Mick

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the '72 ones have a small drain plug on bottom of cases. All the others have a very big hexagon plug( with filter built in above it.)  Very easy to spot while you are lying next to it doing a close inspection.....

 

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