DVLA nonsense.

Although not mentioned in your list, a letter and photo from the Club records officer will, I think, suffice. What they are interested in is that you are fitting an engine appropriate to the motorcycle. This reflects a general tightening up. Bear in mind the workers at DVLA are only carrying out the instructions of their masters

... that my dealings with DVLA have always been fine. I recently regsitered the Greeves I'm turning into a Grumph. I did this in its original form (although with an incorrect engine albeit a Villiers) with the help of documention from the Greeves Riders' Association. I got a V5C with an age related number a couple of weeks after applying. I've now sent the V5C back with a request to change the engine number and capacity, being in the process of fitting the 3TA engine, and have included a receipt for the engine - although only a personal one. I'll let you know how I get on.

As did many others of  my age group due to the  change from 16 to17 year old entitlement. But  since them imported vintage machines, hybrid trials machines, private number changes and  resurrecting a 50 year old pre SORN original reg for my current machine all have gone well. 

We have to appreciate their role in ensuring all vehicles are compliant with documentation.  Our small world of vintage registrations is probably managed under the same umbrella as set out for  stolen vehicles and vehicle components, a huge illicite industry that warrants the scrutiny of the DVLA .

Jon    

DVLA recently corrected the frame number on a Honda for me - wrong prefix. Took a while and a few e-mails and photos but easy enough.

I really should update the number of the engine in my Commando. Was just going to write in the current number on the V5 but it sounds like things have changed since I last did this.

Like the OP, I have a couple of engines 'on the shelf' and I've had them for many years, mostly in pieces.

1. Has anyone here done a change of engine number recently? How did it go?
2. Would a pic of the first engine next to the replacement engine, showing that they are clearly the same thing, be sufficient for them?
3. Would a letter from my friendly MOT tester satisfy the 'garage letter'?
4. If the engine to be swapped in is on the V5 for another bike registered to me, will that go straight thru?

hello,

i may be wrong,  i am sure i read somewhere if its an historic vehicle the dvla dont need any proof for the engine swop. other than new details to update the v5c.

barry

Hi Ian. I have 2 500 Tri-Greeves. The 65 Challenger I might break and swap engines. If you want any parts I will have rebuilt MP Forks, British Hub Co. wheels etc. I have had recent dealings with DVLA. If you approach them in the correct way, you should have no problems. Cheers Andy

... I think I have most of what I need. The engine is a 350 mongrel composed from the sweepings of someone else's rejected parts but seems to be going together quite well - but a long way to go. This is it with the tanks and seat propped in position to see how they line up.

I found this - here: https://hmvf.co.uk/topic/30472-changing-engine-number-without-reciept-dvla/

The February newsletter of the FBHVC announced the DVLA change of policy for Historic Vehicle engine changes and anticipated that there may be difficulties:

 "Verification of Engine changes.

 This was a subject that has been causing some difficulties. DVLA have now made a statement as follows:

 ‘I note that the issue of evidence to support notifications of engine change also features [in the list of questions]. As you are aware, this was raised at the recent meeting with the Minister. I am pleased to confirm that this policy has been reviewed and that it will no longer be necessary for keepers of vehicles in the Historic class - date of manufacture before 1 Jan 1973 - to provide evidence to support an engine notification. Grateful if you can pass this information on to your members’.

 

This was posted in 2014 and the DVLA statement comes from 2011. Anyone know whether this is accurate / still applies?

... I've just received the new V5C for the Grumph with the revised engine number and capacity. Around a week turnaround which seems good to me. I did enclose an "informal" receipt for the engine - which I bought from a private seller as part of a job lot - but that receipt didn't mention the manufacturer, just the capacity and engine number.

Of course I wouldn't recommend this but anyone with a computer and printer can generate a receipt of the same type......