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Hi all, I've a high compression head on my 1972 750 engine and would like to  lower the compression for easier starting. The head on the bike at present has H1715 and C stamped on it.

The paperwork I got with the bike said the engine had been detuned, but didn't say how.

My question is what's the best way to lower compression? Different head, thicker head gasket, thicker base gasket?

Thanks.

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I think Combat engines had a skimmed head ? So perhaps a different head may help. A compression plate under the barrel helps a little Pistons could be machined but this will need to be done by an expert . Hollow crown Atlas pistons do exist  but are like hens teeth . A specially made copper head gasket could be made for you . Pushrods may need to be lengthened. 

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Shove a compression plate under the barrel: https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-details/20527/compression-plate-028-750-commando-atlas

But check the rocker arm angle is ok, i.e. the adjuster doesn't have to be screwed in too far and it still hits the top of the valve squarely. You might check the pushrod length in case someone has shortened them.

Also check the pistons, if it has Powermaxes in there, swap for standard items.

 

In fact, I think I'd pull the head off and measure the compression first to find out where you're starting from.

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"C" for Combat 10:1 high compression, detune using a .030" cylinder base gasket, measure yours against this figure  to ascertain what you already have to confirm what you have been told.

According to my Commando workshop manual the push rods are the same for both standard and Combat engines @ 8.166"/8.130" inlet, 

Exhaust 7.321"/7.285" assembled length. 

Here's the strange thing. The engine is 1972, but was registered in 73 as an Interpol. I was told by someone that the Interpols never had Combat engines.

The original owner, after he bought it ex police, according to the paperwork I got with the bike, said he turned the bike into a JPN replica in 1980. No mention of fitting another cyl head. Just detuning, which makes me think that the engine is original. It has black cyl barrels and the breather tower on the back of the crankcase.

I've posted a picture of the history I got with it. In fact, there's a good chance the original owner might be known to one of the club members.

In fact, I've a bunch of receipts from Mick Hemmings. I must post a photo or two of the names on them to see if anyone in the club knows them, or if they were members at one time.

 

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Firstly, use a compression plate, this with the gaskets closely gives the same figure as what was removed from the head. Depending on what cam you have will also dictate how hard it is to start depending on when the inlet valve shuts. 

Interpols may have used different length push rods, there is a drawing for them but whether they were actually fitted is anyones guess. Also, there are Norton performance upgrade leaflets issued by Norton instructing that if you use the 2S cam then you need to shorten the push rods. Why this was not done for the Combat engines I don't know, but shorter push rods are now readily available, and I suspect may even be better to fit in standard engines.

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We are not sure, the Combat engine was around long before it was a standard fitment as an optional extra. The innovation is not ours, the tuning guidance in the service releases says to modify them by 0.040'' for use the 2S cam which is the same as the Combat would have fitted. 

 


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