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Gents,

I will be reassembling the top end of my 46 model 18 soon and will need to lap my barrel and head...The engine had a gasket prior and I would like to assemble the correct way.

I am aware the spigot area should be "taller" to complete the seal so am I looking at a .001"-.005" difference and checking for a gap or light when torqued down? 

Thanks much.

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There should be about .001" difference, so you will see light through the joint before you tighten the nuts, but none when done up tight. Use coarse grinding paste on the wide face, and fine on the spigot and it should work ok.
John
 

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Nathan, I agree with John, fine on the spigot and course on the head, put it on both at the same time and lap it like a valve turning it back and forth, lifting it from time to time and rotating it.  It works for me and was how George Cohen showed me how to do it.  The fun bit (not!) is getting rid of all the grit afterwards!

John, is that your plane?  An Auster? I have a friend in BC with a 58 Cessna 170 and a cub. 

Dan 

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Hi Dan
yes it is my Auster, VH-KAZ, a J1-b, 1951, which I've owned for about 35 years and restored about 10 years ago.
John
 

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If you had a gasket, surely there's much too big a gap to lap down the outer face?  For information: spigot height and recess depth on my OHC Single are 0.375".

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At this time, I'm going to assume the previous owner probably installed for that reason or wasn't aware it didn't require a gasket?? Either way, I will have my machinist check it out since the the barrel will require a welded fin and the head needs a rebuild. With the technical information I've received from you all I can have it properly set up. The Machinist I use does nothing but British bikes so I should be "Golden" there.
cheers. 

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Hi Nathan,

   Your engine has a 3/8th (.375) inch spigot as all of the OHV engines with cast-iron heads of this period. This changed to 1/4 (.25) inch when the aluminium heads were used. Both the heads and cylinder barrels were machined accurately to the sizes and the joint was a ground fit in the pre-war years. This was a time consuming operation and an aluminium gasket was introduced to speed up production and aid owners doing their own maintenance.
   Using a gasket spoils the integrity of this joint as there is a corresponding gap between spigot and head which compromises the combustion process until this gap fills up with carbon. Also the soft gasket has to take the full combustion pressure and can fail if it becomes distorted.
   Using coarse and fine paste will automatically give a 1 thou or so differential which is as much as you need to get a good spigot contact. Use a non-hardening sealer sparingly on all faces.

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Thanks Richard! This is the sole purpose of me asking questions to get this old girl set-up the proper way. You are correct about the carbon Build up...need I say more. The gasket that was on there was.017" !! Losing some compression there. As stated in my previous response, I will check the spigot and head for proper measurements and if it's to far out or needs cleaning up I can have my machinist get it straightened out. I looked at Mike Pemberton's article in the (Singles compendium) and he looks to use well seal on the base. Can't wait to get back up and running. 

thanks again all!

cheers. 

 



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