Skip to main content
English French German Italian Spanish

Spares for 1955 es2

Forums

Hello, I am buying a Norton Es2 year 1955 in need of total restoration, could anyone please help finding parts for this model. I'm after mudguards , exhaust , and lots of other bits. I'm sorry if this has been asked before but any help or pointer's in the right direction would be very much appreciated, Thank you for any help you can offer.
 
Paul.

Permalink

For both reproduced or original parts the club has a healthy stock. Plenty of suitable parts on eBay. Exhaust specialist manufacturers of differing standards, and general vintage parts suppliers like Fecked, British Only, SRM, RGM, should stock what you need.

Autojumbles, and motorcycle shows can turn up  many parts as long as you know what you are looking at. Depending on your area, Newark does a monthly sale through spring summer.

The  VMCC Founders day is one of my favourites with great selections at good prices.
Stafford show has had good jumbles in the past but prices are higher as the pitches are expensive.  Shepton Mallet has several through the year also. Just pick up an Old Bike Mart or similar for the advertisers closest to you. A lot of parts for the ez2 are common to many models of Norton.  When you start, survey the machine and group the necessary items into tinware, cycle parts, drivetrain, then you keep an eye on the market. It will make a fine machine when your done!

Thanks Jon, I do go to Stafford, i'm in West Cheshire so have never been to other Autojumbles , I get the old Bike Mart so will keep an eye on that, could i please ask which other models the Mudguards fit, then i can look out for those. Thank you so much for your help.
Paul.

Permalink

Good spot from Coen, but regardless of Mr T,s tarriffs, import cost would be high. Mudguards can be fitted pretty much at the end of the build so keep an eye on the market.  The rear should be a two piece but some people fit single piece but wheel extraction needs to be considered.  You would have a single down tube swing arm frame I guess so model 18, 7 or 77 may well be the same.

There is a company in Redditch "Renovation Spares" (07375697350) who roll lots of different profile mudguards.  I'm sure he would be able to advise you.  He does stays as well and attends many of the autojumbles. 

 

Permalink

Paul,
The rear mudguard is very hard to find as they were only used for about 3 or 4 years on the single downtube frames for the ES2, Model 18, Model 19S and Model 7.  Not sure about the Model 77.
I've had my 1955 ES2 since 1970 and have only ever seen two of these rear mudguards for sale at Autojumbles over the last 30 years!
There are two versions that fit; the one in the ebay advert is correct and has the seat bracket attached as well.  The other type is more of a "D" shape, as shown in the photo below.  This the type that was on my bike when I bought it in 1970, so it was only 15 years old at the time, and I've seen at leat 5 other ES2's fitted with this style mudguard.
The hinged section at the back is crucial for machines fitted with a sidecar, but is not as essential on a solo as you can still just get the rear wheel out.
It may be possible to adapt a similar mudguard from a BSA or Panther.
Rear number plate is difficult to find but a BSA one can be adapted.
Dual seats seem difficult to find as well.
Both wheels should be single sided drum brakes, with an 8" front.  But the later full width hubs will fit and may get your bike on the road.

By the way, if you venture south to the VMCC Autojumbles (March and September) they are now held at Cheddar (Winchester Farm), not at Shepton Mallet Showground.

In reply to by philip_ham

Permalink

Thank you for your help Philip , i don't seem to be able to see the photo, but that may be my inability to work computers. which one do you mean in the ebay advert. I am very grateful for any help or advice, Thanks again.
Paul

Permalink

Paul,
The photo was embedded in my response when I sent it, so I'm puzzled.  Anyway, here is an attached photo.
Also, photos of the rear number plate.  The painted one with rear lamp is the correct one and the primer painted one is similar but this one has a slightly depressed area where the rear light fixes on.

Philip

Philip, Thank you so much for your help, the pictures are so helpful, i will try my best to sourse  the bits that i need, i need a centre stand as well as many parts, i'm hoping that a 1955 ES2 will be worth the effort. 
Thank you so much.
Paul.

Permalink

hello 

i have the same mudguard on my bike as shown in Philips photos. after a while searching for a better mudguard i decided to repair mine. when i removed all of the rust there were that many holes in it, it would have made a nice water feature. trouble was i ended welding it from one end to the other. it took me ages to get it something like. i had to make a bridge for the pivoting rear section. along with various plates down the sides ect. half way through doing it, i thought it would have been easier to have bought a new same section mudguard and have a professional do it as they would be able cut and shape to suit. at least it would be new thicker metal.and a better job.

barry

Thanks Barry, i think i would be happy with any mudguards that could be made to look like the originals, there are loads of parts that i need. Thanks again mate.
Paul.

Permalink

I have a 55 and 53 ES2, neither are concours!

I got a seat made from Leightons for my 53 - theres much debate about whether the seat should be flat or dip like the BSAs of the period! 

I decided to use generic mudguards in the end - I did read somewhere that the wideline rear mudguard is very similar to the single down tube rear mudguard but then they are hardly common either! 

RGM do lots of useful spares, as do Andover - I tend not to use Norvil - mostly because I don't like their website and have received a couple of incorrect parts in the past. Feked are good for generic stuff. I go it a wiring kit from Alan Osborne - AO services - the club's electrical expert and go to the Cheddar Autojumbles,  but it worth looking anywhere, Ive found some good parts at the Telford Classic Dirt Bike show!

When it comes to your forks, you can use commando stanchions and dampers if you'd like to improve the front end.

finally dot expect to get your money back, prices have fallen considerably £4k is about average at the moment.

Dan 

Thanks Dan, Your advise is very helpful, i will keep looking for bits. I will not be restoring to concours, it would be too expensive, if i can get it running and looking good i will be happy, at least it will be a Norton saved.

Permalink

Paul,
I forgot to say that the front mudguard is much easier to find.  Most of the long roadholder forks that have a 19" wheel have the same mudguard.
Centre stands do turn up occasionally, but the mounting holes to fix onto the frame are likely to be elongated with wear.  These holes can be drilled oversize and a bush made, or a new shouldered bolt can be made to suit.
As you say, get it working and on the road to resurrect another Norton.  When people discuss which bits they think are wrong, this is a good chance to ask if they know where you can find the correct parts!

Thanks Philip, your advice and help is great, it really is, i value all the help from the club members, any points that will help me out are very much appriciated . Regarding the rear .number plate, which model of BSA would you suggest. Thanks again Mate.

Paul.

Permalink

Here's mine - just after the horn rattled off! Front mudguard is for a 21" wheel hence the gap.

Es2

Thanks Dan, if i can get it to look that good, i'll be well pleased, it's a credit to you mate.
Paul.

Permalink

With regards to exhaust systems I can recommend Armours, I bought my M18 silencer  from them  about 30 years ago and its still looking good.Autojumbles where have they all gone? there used to be several in the North Wales Chester area now we have to travel to Stafford or further
                G.Roberts

Permalink

Hello Gwilym, thanks for the advise mate, i will try Armours for the exhaust system. your right about the Autojumbles, there used to be one in Chester quite often, there don't seem to be any in our area any more.

Permalink

Paul,
I've been fortunate enough not to have to fit a BSA or Panther mudguard, so have no experience to suggest what would do.  My mudguard is 5 1/2" wide.  If you can get to a VMCC or BSA bike meet you could take a tape measure and ask to measure their mudguards.
I'll keep an eye out when I meet up with friends to check the sizes.
Philip.

Philip, As always , thank you so much for your help, i'm sorry for the constant mithering. I don't really want to go down the India path if possible, at the moment it's mudguards, centre stand and a rear number plate holder, all of which seem impossible to find. I can maybe have a copy of the centre stand and rear number plate holder made and if the mudguards would fit from a different make i think that will do. It will be good to get another Norton on the road. i do have a Model 19s of the same year so i can remove some bits for being remade. Thank you again.
Paul.

Permalink

Paul,
I've been away for a dew days, so have not seen your message until now.
When I first had my ES2 in 1970 both mudguards had been cut short so that the bike could be ridden around the fields.  Fortunately the cut off parts came with the bike.  To get the bike on the road my Dad and I fitted alloy mudguards and they served the purpose at the time.  The problem was supporting the seat at the rear as the original steel mudguard was reinforced and carried the seat bracket .
At least you have the 19S for reference and can recognise the parts.
The last rear mudguard I found was at the Banbury Run a couple of years ago, and at a reasonable price.  I was delighted!
Philip

Permalink

Hello Philip, Thanks for the advice yet again, I think i will just get on with the restoration and and keep looking for parts. Thanks so much for all your help and advice. I have a feeling i will be asking lots more questions of the Club, in the mean time if you know of any bits and bobs please let me know. Thanks again mate.
Paul.

Permalink

Paul, 

By now you must be realising that a good restoration of a seventy year old Norton takes patience and persistence. 

Our club magazine Roadholder goes to four thousand NOC  members and a Wanted Advert can bring some surprises and generous offers from the countless sheds and caches. 

The number of NOC members using the website is quite small in comparison. 

Old style, but so are many of the people who might just have that part. 

Peter 

 

 



© 2024 Norton Owners Club Website by 2Toucans