My 1951 Norton ES 2 was imported from the UK in roughly 1983 and never plated here. Hope to have it on the road in the next 4 weeks and Iwill be putting on new licence plates for the first time 30 years
It still has the original UK rear number tag...not one on the front fender. (Licence plate is what we call it on this side of the pond)
Plus I have the log book showing 4 owners going back to 1960 and indication original registration in 1951. All very interesting to have with the bike. I am attempting to contact the owners but don't expect I'll receive any reply.
I see various vintage bike brokers in the UK premoting the resale value of vintage bikes they are selling as being enhanced by the older number tag and registration log book.
Why would this be an asset ? and do my number tag and book have value in the UK ? could the number somehow be put back into the system and attached to an existing vintage bike in the UK ?
I'm thrilled to simply have them as part of the history of the bike but if they have actual use in the UK,...then that seems more desirable than storage here in a drawer.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Grant
in Toronto
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Pre '84 the record is wor…
Pre '84 the record is worth little unless the machine is brought back to the UK where it may aid the recovery of the registration to that machine. If the reg is sent back on its own and in the highly unlikely event of it being re-used, it would be non-transferable and worthless in the registration plate dealers eyes.
As you notice there are many older machines that were captured in the DVLA computer update in 1984, those that made this date have transferable registrations. Machines with their orignal numbers that did not get captured and in susequent years were added to the databse with their original numbers will have them recorded as being non-transferable.
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If the bike were brought back,there would be no problem. It's on the DVLA database so all you would have to do is apply for a replacement registration document and tax it. DVLA might want to inspect it to confirm the frame number I suppose.
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Previously Gordon Johnston wrote:
Previously grant_macneill wrote:
My 1951 Norton ES 2 was imported from the UK in roughly 1983 and never plated here. Hope to have it on the road in the next 4 weeks and Iwill be putting on new licence plates for the first time 30 years
It still has the original UK rear number tag...not one on the front fender. (Licence plate is what we call it on this side of the pond)
Plus I have the log book showing 4 owners going back to 1960 and indication original registration in 1951. All very interesting to have with the bike. I am attempting to contact the owners but don't expect I'll receive any reply.
I see various vintage bike brokers in the UK premoting the resale value of vintage bikes they are selling as being enhanced by the older number tag and registration log book.
Why would this be an asset ? and do my number tag and book have value in the UK ? could the number somehow be put back into the system and attached to an existing vintage bike in the UK ?
I'm thrilled to simply have them as part of the history of the bike but if they have actual use in the UK,...then that seems more desirable than storage here in a drawer.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Grant
in Toronto
Here's what our registration authorities have on your bike - it seems it hasn't been exported after all! Gordon.
Date of Liability01 09 1983Date of First Registration26 09 1951Year of ManufactureNot AvailableCylinder Capacity (cc)490ccCO2 EmissionsNot AvailableFuel TypePETROLExport MarkerNVehicle StatusUnlicensedVehicle ColourNOT STATEDVehicle Type ApprovalNot Available
Hello Gordon, Thanks !
the bike was indeed exported as I have it on display among the guitars and amps on the sales floor of my shop: The Twelfth Fret Guitar shop here in Toronto.
I bought it from a fellow who has had it for years, brought over from the UK in 1984. He never got around to getting this on the road...but has 2 slightly later swing arm nortons plus several other British bikes
I will apply to the NOC Records department as soon as I get the photos and form together and hopefully will learn more
I currently have it registered as a 1952, because it was mistakenly registered in the USA as 1952...though I showed the original British registration as proof my local Canadian MOT official preferred to take the word of the US bureaucrat (grin)
they assure me that with the NOC "official" document that they will correct this for me.
Thanks for the help
Regards Grant MacNeill
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Previously grant_macneill wrote:
Here's what our registration authorities have on your bike - it seems it hasn't been exported after all! Gordon.
Date of Liability01 09 1983Date of First Registration26 09 1951Year of ManufactureNot AvailableCylinder Capacity (cc)490ccCO2 EmissionsNot AvailableFuel TypePETROLExport MarkerNVehicle StatusUnlicensedVehicle ColourNOT STATEDVehicle Type ApprovalNot Available