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I have a RGM oil filter kit which is the same as a number of suppliers use.

Does anybody know what replacment filter number fits. I think a FRAM PH---- and sure others fit as well like a 2CV. Help

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Previously tony_harris wrote:

I have a RGM oil filter kit which is the same as a number of suppliers use.

Does anybody know what replacment filter number fits. I think a FRAM PH---- and sure others fit as well like a 2CV. Help

Just had a reply off another form. Check out site below. Tony

http://atlanticgreen.com/oilfilter.htm

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The problem I found is that most seem to be sold by application as far as I can see in the shops. Halfords is of course almost the only motor spares retailer anywhere near most high streets in the UK now that all the small shops have been driven out of business by more reliable cars and people's reluctance to look under the bonnet (in London, anyway).Citroen 2CV is no longer listed, and data from 1989 in the USA don't assist much in 2015 in the UK.I'm baffled as to why every car on the road should need a different filter! Apart from the marketing monopolies thus set up of course.Does anyone know of a modern filter that will fit and function? Or must we buy by mail order?
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Previously tony_harris wrote:

Previously tony_harris wrote:

I have a RGM oil filter kit which is the same as a number of suppliers use.

Does anybody know what replacment filter number fits. I think a FRAM PH---- and sure others fit as well like a 2CV. Help

Just had a reply off another form. Check out site below. Tony

http://atlanticgreen.com/oilfilter.htm

While my research started in 1989, it was updated in 2007. It may not help if people in places other than the USA have not heard of Ducati. They are fairly popular here. I feed my Nortons and 3 Ducati with the same 16x1.5mm filters. At least half my numbers listed are european in origin.

Dave

http://atlanticgreen.com/

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I also use a Mahle OC5 on my 750 Commando and 650 Dommie. They are available from my local motor parts supplier. Just £4.50 inc VaT.

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Thanks, David and Phil.Sorry I didn't mean to sound disparaging, David. It's frustrating in 'post industrial England' that so many high street suppliers have gone, and stockists that remain seem to list parts by car model and if they don't have the brand on the list then the equivalents aren't easy to find. Maybe it's a London thing. Nearly every shop round here is a restaurant or estate agent and all the useful ones have gone.
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NOCShop sell a suiable replacement filter

I have a RGM oil filter kit which is the same as a number of suppliers use.

Does anybody know what replacment filter number fits. I think a FRAM PH---- and sure others fit as well like a 2CV. Help

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The Commando type filter base have a 16mm X 1.5mm pitch thread. Not very common with todays car engines filterswhich tend to be expensive, around $16 plus,and not easily found in car parts shops. To overcome this,I fit a thread adaptor on the Commando mountbase to bring it up to 20mm dia X 1.5mm pitch, which is amore common mount sizeand the filters are only around the $6 -$7 mark, (3 - 3.5 quid), andreadily available inparts shops. My missus Mazda takes a #436 filter, 20mm dia. X 1.5 pitch,so I buy a box of them so one filter does all my bikes, and her car. Another one I have also used is #445 which is only a mm different in the can size,so carries another part number, but does the same job.

Paul

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Lateral Thinking................Reading through the excellent Atlantic Green survey of Commando oil filters I noticed that my choice, a Mahle OC5, falls into the group with a low 12-15 psi bypass rating. So apparently does the recommended Norton type. What concerns me is that my filter set-up (& I guess for most Commando owners) is directly linked to the return side of the oil pump. Now I am informed that the feed side of the oil pump churns out 45 - 55 psi or more from cold and because the return side has larger gears is presumably even higher.

So..........if the bypass kicks off at around 15psi does this mean that all the rubbish in the sump, during a cold start-up, circumvents the filter and heads off to the oil tank??? Or, does the filter allow enough oil through it to keep the pressure in the system low? Unless the filter is blocked.

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I should imagine that a 4 cylinder car enginewould have a considerably greater oil flow onit's pressurefeed side than a Norton return side pump. Unless the filter element is unduly clogged through lack of maintenance, I would not expect the by pass valve to lift.

And........there should not be any rubbish residing in the sump if the filter has been doing its job during the last run.!!

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I am lucky. I quoted several of the numbers on the atlanticgreen site and my local motor factor in town could get a few of them. He took a look at the original filter I took in and noted that it had a valve in it. He said this is for when the filter housing in mounted horizontal to stop oil draining out of the housing and causing a posible air lock. I had no idea about such things. This sort of info you dont get from the teenager at Halfords.

You live and learn.

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Filters I have dismantled generally have two valves, the first is a rubber flap up against the ring of holes around the perifery of the can to keep it primed bypreventing oil draining back when the engine has stopped. The second is generally fitted at the back of the can and is held closed by a spring. (This can be seen down the bottom)This valvewill open by pressure build upto allow oil tobypass the filter element in case it is tooblockedbycontaminated, this allows the oil to keep circulating.

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Here's a few :-

Champion H 101

HF 153 (Hi Flo, most bike shops sell this brand)

K & N 153, has a nut on for easy removal

Fram PH 2839

sam

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Well. Non of the motor factors can get any of the filter numbers I quote. I just phoned RGM there about £4.50 each+ vat an arrive the next day.

Sorted.

 


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