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Clutch lift

Recent data on the variety of clutch spring lengths lead me to dismantle my clutch which is 1955 laydown box. The springs were more or less as quoted for length and I reassembled and used by dial gauge to check for equal lift. This was pretty easy to achieve, but I was surprised that the lift was only 0.040 '' . I cannot find the official figure, any ideas. It doesn't seem a lot to me.

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The movement you haveon yourlaydown box seems pretty much par for the course, Charles. I've never seen an official figure but Iwas similarly surprised whilst going through an unsuccessful attempt to fit an RGM Belt Drive Kit to a 1956 Dommie 99 with a laydown box.Originally mine was about 40 thou also with 7/8" pivot levers. Trying every tweak possible and using 1.125" pivots the maximum increased to 0.062" as shown below, still not enough to operate the diaphragm clutch to the standard one would wish. By comparison I found the AMC clutch mechanism givesmore than double that throwwith the same levers.

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It's almost impossible to operate the Commando diaphragm clutch using the slow worm on the laydown boxes. The best option is an unequal whiffle tree pivoting under the fuel tank.

I believe that such a conversion is available for current Royal Enfields but I can't find a link.

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Previously charles_bovington wrote:

Recent data on the variety of clutch spring lengths lead me to dismantle my clutch which is 1955 laydown box. The springs were more or less as quoted for length and I reassembled and used by dial gauge to check for equal lift. This was pretty easy to achieve, but I was surprised that the lift was only 0.040 '' . I cannot find the official figure, any ideas. It doesn't seem a lot to me.

Many thanks for the information. The worm is restricted to a 45 deg arc by the lever movement possible. Maybe the answer is a worm which has a courser thread to give more forward movement for a given arc. I don't know if anyone has tried this ?

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Hi Pete, I too am plagued by not enough clutch lift on my lay down box. I have managed to attain almost a 1/16" by filing the edge of the handle bar lever blade back almost to the cable nipple, which allows a longer arc for it to pull out the cable. Also, I have drawn up on paper the full size diagram of the actuating worm lever inside the gear box. I then drew it up with a shortened lever (by about 1/8")and found this would give maximum movement of the worm screw, and increase the lift (sacrificing only a little bit of lightness on the handle bar lever pull) This can be easily achieved by cutting (on a long angle)and shutting the worm actuating lever. Brazing it back together afterwards. I will try this one day!

Paul.

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I did consider shortening he worm actuating lever as you suggest Paul but shied away from the risk of butchering a perfectly serviceable component. Inspired by a photo that Richard had posted of a beautifully engineered "unequal whiffle tree pivoting under the fuel tank"I adapted the idea to a cruder version of my own as shown below. This finally gave all the throw needed for a laydown box to actuate a diaphragm clutch unit but the increase in lever pressure, whilst still manageable, did not seem a worthwhile trade offjust to have an oil free primary case, so I reverted to the original setup.

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