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As the kickstart lever on my 1955 Dominator 99 does not fully return to it's top position after cranking the engine , I am suspecting that the return spring is passed it's sell by date. I note that there are two types of spring. Are both interchangeable and if so which is preferable ? 

I have not yet removed the gear box cover as I wish to order a new spring and gasket first. I assume that it is fairly straight forward to change the spring. 

Could there be any other reason within the box that might be causing the problem ? 

George

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The spring changed on the AMC box  and also the inner cover and shaft so they are not easily interchangeable.I had a similar problem on my 60 box and found that when I reduced the slop in the bush the kickstart stopped misbehaving.

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Thanks Robert. Which particular bush are you referring to ? Is it easily replaced ? I am sure that all will be revealed when I remove the outer cover.

George

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Hi George - The kickstart spring on the later AMC gearbox (AMC2) is one whole coil longer and stronger than the earlier box.  Because of that the locator hole in the kickstart shaft is about 0.25 inches further out.  If you do manage to fit the longer spring onto the early shaft it is coil bound immediately you start to turn it. If your gearbox has a prefix N it will more that likely have the short spring and the inner case with the hole to suit.  It also has the AMC1 ratios.  If its prefix is NA it is likely to be AMC2 with the longer spring and the peg in the inner case for the spring.  All Commandos and Mercurys have the long spring.  Cheers, Howard

Thanks Howard . I am not sure how much free play is normal from the kickstart lever top position  as mine has about 25 degrees play before the ratchet is contacted which to me seems excessive and a waste of potential movement. I am sure that there will be some backlash before contact is made with the ratchet but how much is acceptable ?

George

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As it is 1955 dies your bike have the Laydown gearbox?  I've never compared the spring to the ones used in the AMC box.

I've replaced the spring in a Laydown box and you only need to remove the plated cover behind the kickstart lever to get to the spring.  Once the cover has been prized off the spring is easily removed.  The new one then needs tensioning by clipping one end into the hole in the kickstart splines and then  pulling the other end to clip into one of 4 slots by the gearbox outer cover.  This tensioning can be a bit tricky, so have some plasters ready!

Phil.

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Its easy to put the rachet in upside down and it can work for a while . If you take it appart ,something to check.

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Sorry Chaps, I have had a senior moment as my Dominator 99 is in fact a 1956 !

The suffix on the gear box is GB 8. Not sure what you mean by a 'laydown' box.

George

ps.....Having done a bit more research my box is a laydown type with the oval inspection cover but not sure as to what the suffix GB 8 refers to.

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It is very possible that the spring has just got a little weak, and you can increase the spring tension

The spring cover is accessible without dismantling the gearbox.  Remove the kick start lever.  The spring cover is now accessible.  you will need to use a knife or similar to ease the steel cover off the shaft. Patience, and lots of penetrating oil may be needed.  When you get it off, the spring will be exposed.  With some effort, you can move the spring tang round another notch on the housing. 

Paul

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Thanks Paul,

Are you saying that I do not need to remove the front cover ? I have ordered a new spring from Andover Norton and I assume that it is of the correct variety.

George 

 



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