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Commando £ Values

I am new to the NOC and looking to buy a 750/850 Commando. I would like one that's riding well and very tidy, I am not looking for another project - I have too many already!

I have seen a few Commandos, and listened to the views of owners on what they think their bikes are worth.

I have a few questions:

Are there particular models of Commando that are worth more than others? ie Early Fastbacks, Mk3s

Do people think that generally the Roadsters are more desirable than the Interstates?

Is the value of a bike enhanced or reduced by improvements such as Norvil disc brakes, Alton electric starters, alloy rims, single carb conversions, stainless exhausts etc?

There are some lovely bikes out there, and I am sure that once the weather has improved so that I can actually ride a few, I will find a nice one!

Thanks for your views.

 

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If you're buying it to ride then it's worth what you, and others, are prepared to pay for it. I'm not going to say which are more desirable; it's either what you want or it isn't. Read the period magazine road tests that you'll find online. Spares situation is very good so there's no reason not to ride it.

If you're buying it as an investment then they're all over priced and I predict prices will come down to Dominator levels as owners find they can't ride them anymore and the kids don't want them. They made 60,000 of the things.

I would say buy from a friend or at least find a bike you know about. There are lots of stories about bikes being 'professionally restored' where it turns out they've been cobbled together from some box of old bits by someone who doesn't know a Whitworth bolt from something Screwfix sell.

Ashley Cutler was selling his, don't know if he still has it.
 

Hi Stan,

Definitely buying to ride. I recognise that Commandos prices will probably still fall further, but if I do 10,000 miles over a couple of years on UK and European trips I will be happy. This is a bit of an experiment for me as up-until-now I have mainly ridden 70s Italian bikes, and more recently some 60s Japanese bikes.

Love to give British biking a go. Just need a bit of a tutorial on which are the most desirable Commandos to ride. At the moment I am leaning towards a well sorted Mk 3 Interstate if I can find one.

I do not know Ashley Cutler, is his bike still for sale and what is it?

Thanks again,

Richard

Ashley works for Andover Norton and is on this forum: https://www.nortonownersclub.org/user/110959
He has/had a Mk3.

If I were in the market for another Commando and lived in Scotland I'd take a look at this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/257350828009
Lots of little things to pick up on and I'd want to know why he's only had it a year, but it might be a decent ride.

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Mine is still for sale but I want to sell everything Norton in my garage and that is one MK3 and another MK3 project, both Inerstates.
Many 'restored' bikes are usually bodged together to get their money back or a profit. Alton kit may increase the price marginally, but make sure if the bike comes with the original parts. In the UK the Roadster is the more sought after as it is lighter to ride and move about. For touring and long distance the Interstate is the wanted bike. The difference being another 3 gallons of petrol sat high up on the bike. The fastback is no more expensive than the later bikes these days. 
If I was in the market for a Commando like you describe then the NOC is the place to look, the bikes tend to have long ownership and they are maintained by owners that tend to know what they are doing or know who to maintain the bike for them, most are used often so pretty reliable. So the bikes to aim for first time ownership I would suggest a late 750 Roadster or pre Mk3 850 Roadster for a right hand gear change or MK3 Roadster for the left hand gear change, but most owners swap from bikes with the gear change on either side with no issues. 

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They are only worth what people are prepared to pay. Avoid a bike that has 'performance' parts fitted (like a hot camshaft etc). A bike with a single carb is better from a maintenance and economy point of view. An electric start bike (say with an Alton, CNW, or other kit) will be more expensive than a bike without and as Ashley says make sure it comes with the bits taken off. Ditto the carb swap. A single SU carbed roadster will have better MPG, so, similar range as a twin concentric interstate.
Be aware that an interstate when carrying a pillion is not a good handling bike. 
Brake wise, make sure that the disc brake has been upgraded to something that will cope with modern traffic. The original is crap.
Before buying anything ask a commando owner if you can start his bike, on the kickstart, Then imagine you are loaded up in traffic, stalled, in the middle of a busy junction. An electric start is now a godsend.
When you do find something, take someone with you that knows Commandos backwards, it might save you a lot of grief.
Avoid like the plague 'a just restored' bike. Ditto 'original' They will a nightmare of problems waiting to catch the unaware.         

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Thanks Peter,

Useful advice!

I would intend using my Commando with a pillion. When you say that they do not handle well with a pillion what is the problem? Can it be fixed? Isolastic adjustment, rear shock upgrade, increased rear pre-load, tyre choice.........etc?

I have a 1976 Ducati 860GTS on which I do sunny day trips with my wife on the back, and I had hoped to do the same with a Commando.

Richard

The interstates sit the rider and pillion back a few inches back compared to the roadster. When the interstate tank is full you have a lot of weight up top (top side of 50Lbs plus) That and luggage can make for a marked difference in handling between solo and touring two up. Two up and fully loaded the bike will feel very twitchy indeed. The roadster is better in this respect as you are sat further forwards. Weight of pillion can make a big difference as well, someone with the build of a pixie has much less effect than someone somewhat larger.
A bike with a fairing puts another thing into the equation, can make it better or worse.
Sunny day trips two up will point you towards a roadster with electric start, possibly with single carb should give you approx 150 mile range before looking for petrol. And it will be a sweeter handling bike. 
Why electric start? you can start the bike two up. Try doing that without the pillion getting off. I,m not saying it can't be done, just that it is fraught with bother!.  

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I have been riding an 850 MkIII Interstate since new, probably 30% with a passenger, I have never had handling problems. Maybe I am just a little slower!

My recommendation would be exactly that, MkIII Interstate if you are intending to do long rides, Roadster if only short ones. But I may be a little biased.

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on what you want.  The MK3 850 has a lot of issues on it sorted, the interstate has a longer range tank, single carbs seem to be more economical - but coming from Italian 70's bikes I think that this is not just a 'head' decision but a heart decision too.

The 750's were lighter weight, the roadster is very pretty, and the head angles a degree steeper, so for me they handle sweetly, sound great on peashooters, but moreover when I'm walking away from parking her up I always look over my shoulder...

Two up no worries - nice to be able to use up some of that torque!  

750 Combat

I was in the same position as you last year - I took a big risk on a bike at auction reasoning that I'd have some budget left over to 'put her right' if necessary.  4500 miles later she hasn't really missed a beat - just a few odd things to fix - but I've really enjoyed the fixing!  

 



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