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Hi,

Many years ago whilst living in Guatemala I bought an 850 Commando from the Kawasaki agency for a relatively small amount of money 800 quetzals - 500 USD. I couldn't resist it (the opportunity to own a Commando) even though it had been mistreated. I think theywere pleased to part with it, because the clutch dropped out on the way home and I had to get a local machine shop to make me an extractor in order to compress the spring). This was about 1980. In 1981 I returned to the UK after being away 3 years to visit my family in Bournemouth and spent a lot of money at the establishment in barrack Road, Christchurch (was it ray Fisher)? I also joined the NOC as an overseas member and used to get my magazine every two months, I think it was. Not sure If I have the distinction of being the first or only Guatemalan membership!?

Anyway it was quite a laugh on the flight what with TT100's in the hold and pistons etc in suitcases hand luggage that weighed a ton, trying to make it look featherweight , I returned with everything I needed including a S/H cylinder head (because the original had some sleeves sort of welded into it where the threads had chattered and stripped, which was not very successful.

I became a father and decided to return to the UK (that was in 1984) and the bike had to staybecause I couldn't afford the US$1000 to ship it home with me. I never got to rebuild the bike either and sold it to an enthusiastwho had access to necessary facilities but I was the first to ride it after restoration. It broke my heart because it was now everything it should have been and never was when I rode it.

Anyway, I am currently out of commission due to an op. and treated myself to the commando bible mentioned in this months Roadholder and have a few questions that some of you out there might be able to answer, since I don't actually know the full provenance of that particular machine save that it had been one of two imported by the Kawasaki dealership in Guatemala City.

I'm pretty sure it was a MK1 because it had the metal air filter. Interestingly enough it had Smiths 'Globe' instruments (speedo in KM/h) although I do believe that the first 850s (like my current machine) had Veglia - I suppose there are exceptions to most rules? Also, the barrel was painted black and it had upswept reverse megaphones (I suppose the exhaust system, which had a balance pipe, could have been a later replacement, or was it just the MK1As that had the low level exhaust. The Barrel was original because when I stripped the machine it was at original bore with a badly scored left cylinder..it still ran though?

Just curious to see if anyone has any ideas and to tellof thelove affair that started then. My latest bike I bough last year as a sixtieth birthday present to myself, but it needs a lot spending on it to get it roadworthy so this is very much WIP. It also has a black barrel, but the engine is not matching number with the frame. The reason I mention barrel colour is that I believe that the early commandos had silver barrels, or am I wrong?

Keith

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Your story made me smile having had a similar experience when I lived and workedin Kenya for 28 years from 1978 to 2006 and acquired a Mk 3 850 Commando from the Kenya police when they re-equipped with Be-ems in 1982. One of sixteen machines originally shipped to Kenya in'76 for Presidential outrider duties (for Kenya's 1st and 2nd Presidents Kenyatta and Moi)and in a pretty rough state although running - just,paid Kenya Shillings 15,000 for it which converted to 125 Poundsat that time.

Spent the next two years rebuilding it usingspares sourced in UK during oddvisits home and well remember crammingCommando parts into luggage using a doctored invoiceto navigate throughNairobi airport customsif stopped ! Bike served me well for the next two decades in East Africa covering 10,000 miles and only letting me down once with a disintegrated gearbox layshaft bush. When the timecame toleave in 2006I shipped it back to UK in a shared 20 foot container along with a load of other personal items. Have since had it professionally rebuiltback herewhere it continues to thunder along her Majesty's highways ! Originally white with the Kenya cops , then black aftermy rebuild, it's now candy apple red.

The early 850 Commandos (Mk 1 and Mk1A)had silver barrels while the Mk 2A and Mk 3 had black barrels.The Mk 1 850 had the samemetal airfilter fited to the 750'swhile the Mk 1A 850 (introduced Sept '73) was the first "noise control" model with black moulded foam-element airfilter and bean can silencers.

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I think 1978 was a signal year!!

What I didn't realise is that the clocks were probably Veglia just with the small green globe; the ones on my current bike just say Veglia at the bottom. The machine might well have been a Mk2. Unfortunately I have lost touch with it. I bumped into the guy to whom I sold it some 3 and a bit years ago and he told me he had sold it. there you go!

One thing I have learned with old machines is they seldom stay entirely original unless they have been stored in cotton wool and never ridden!

Keith

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I'm pretty sure it was a MK1 because it had the metal air filter.

Both the MK1 and MK2 had the metal air filter, the MK1A and MK2A had the black plastic air filter, so your air filter does not tell you much. The Veglia went mainly on the Interstate and the Smiths on the rest so again not much of a clue. The best way of telling is from the eng/frame number, 307311 was the first MK2/2A so before that number 300000 to 307310 was MK1.

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Hi,

Truth is I shall probably never know since I have no record of the frame number etc.

Concerning my current machine, it doesn't have the original engine but I think it's a 'Heinz'; but I love it for what it is, all the same..........

Keith

 


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