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Dominator tool tray

I have recently purchased a 1957 dominator 99 and would like to know how I access the tool tray. The seat seems flexible but I can't find any way to open it. Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Assumeing that your bike has a standard seat...

At the back of the seat between the seat base and the tail light is a tang that fits against the fender. In that tang is a dzus fitting with a slotted head. Use a suitable tool to turn the dzus fitting 1/4 turn or so anti-clockwise until it frees up. With the fitting freed up lift therear of the seat just enough to clear the locating pins that engage the holes in the brackets at the top of the shock absorber mounts.With the pins clear, pull the seat to the rear about 2" and lift off.

The tool tray will stare you in the face. If the seat is aftermarket, you will just have to figure it out.

Mike

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Previously michael_sullivan wrote:

Assumeing that your bike has a standard seat...

At the back of the seat between the seat base and the tail light is a tang that fits against the fender. In that tang is a dzus fitting with a slotted head. Use a suitable tool to turn the dzus fitting 1/4 turn or so anti-clockwise until it frees up. With the fitting freed up lift therear of the seat just enough to clear the locating pins that engage the holes in the brackets at the top of the shock absorber mounts.With the pins clear, pull the seat to the rear about 2" and lift off.

The tool tray will stare you in the face. If the seat is aftermarket, you will just have to figure it out.

Mike

No this for the slimline frame only wideline frame there are two nuts under the seat the front part is fitted in with the tank strap ,and I have done way with my Dzus fittings on my Norton Manxman seat and now I fitted a better fasting with a nice white knurled thump knob , fitting so all you have to do is unscrew this and the seat comes off easy , yours Anna J

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Mike: My error.... I presumed that the wideline mounting was the same as the slimline. Norton must have seen the light and made the slimline seateasier to lift off.

Mike

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Previously John Shorter wrote:

What, a non-standard Manxman, how could you?!!

yes well you do up grade one or two items for your ease of using the machine , but at the end of the day its just a small white knob and most would not notice this, as these original fasting are not that good. and you have problems with them coming undone as there only light spring loaded and then you end up losing them , with my white knob you do not lose it, and it has a 1/4x 26 tpi thread , and your seat is securely fastened . and i have up graded my electrics to 12volt and up graded my kick stand too custom hand made one then hard chromed , with a special 4mm plate I made from Sheffield Stainless steel that bolts too the back of all the engine studs then is fitted around the bottom of the fame tube rail, so the stand then cannot move are where and it dose not get in the way of the back of the primary chain guard , and I used some nice high grade nickel steel nuts and stud bar with 3/8 x 26.tpi so nothing going any where with this fastened in and I have had to alter the seal base as the one that came with this machine was for the 650ss and it as a bigger tank too the Manxman so now it fit up to the tank right with No gap in between and then I hand made some nice spacers washers for some areas on the machine, there a one inch spacer for the left hand silencer bracket mounting to hold off the left hand silencer from hitting the back plate this is mounted in with the passager footrest that hold it all in place. as there some part for these machines you cannot buy ,so you have to make them your self if you have the skills that I have, yours anna j

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O.K.. Anna, I was only joking! My '54 Dommi has a few, what I consider, upgrades, but still looks very original. Mods include:- A little extra chrome work, alloy wheel rims (which I would have fitted in the 50's, but could not afford!), "Thorspark" ignition, which retains the mag, so, still looks original, and Vincent bars, which I prefer, and did fit in the 50's. Maybe it is not quite as fast as it used to be (only just tops 85 mph.) but at my age (almost 77) I am not about to spend lots of money for a little extra speed, which I would seldom use.

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Previously John Shorter wrote:

O.K.. Anna, I was only joking! My '54 Dommi has a few, what I consider, upgrades, but still looks very original. Mods include:- A little extra chrome work, alloy wheel rims (which I would have fitted in the 50's, but could not afford!), "Thorspark" ignition, which retains the mag, so, still looks original, and Vincent bars, which I prefer, and did fit in the 50's. Maybe it is not quite as fast as it used to be (only just tops 85 mph.) but at my age (almost 77) I am not about to spend lots of money for a little extra speed, which I would seldom use.

hello john yes I do agree with the less speed bit as on the roads now with all this traffic around Its No good having twin Carburettors you cannot use right as you never get to that speed any way there just to many cars and lorry's on the road and the odd tractor too , with a single carb on I can get 110mph and I am still no were near full throttle , I have a 22 tooth engine sprocket on and a 20 tooth sprocket on the box , and the 650 is a real power house even with a 389 carb on and if you open up the throttle too quick she will pull you arms out, I do have the other carb and spacer to fit on at anytime , but I cannot see the point in fitting them on , with the traffic as it is now, in there day a tuned racing manxman could pis all over a bonnie all day long and at Thruxton are left a Bonnie by 2 mins and 20 seconds and won the race and that was the 500 mile race at that ,this was 1962 but in 61 one raced that Pebble beach up against race tuned Harley's and the 650 sill won the race , then in 63 they won the Swedish GP and my 54 domi won races at pebble beach as it was a race bike well before I got it, now its back too standard but I often wonder if I did the right thing by going back to standard , I maybe better off rebuilding as it was a race bike, with a twin Amal TT10s on it had a 23 tooth Manx gearbox sprocket on and a 20 tooth engine sprocket , in the gearbox the cluster is from a International Semi-close ratio now all rebuilt back up with all new bushes and new bearings when I first got it I put in in first gear and it felt more like top gear too me , its well high geared , so I replaced the engine and gearbox sprocket to a smaller sprockets and I was only been honest, I seen lot of bike that say the rebuilt too original but I bet there Stainless steel nut and bolts on in, or it been power coated , yours anna j

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But Anna, you are only allowed to travel at 70mph in the UK. I hope you did your speed testing on an autobahn...

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Previously Gordon Johnston wrote:

But Anna, you are only allowed to travel at 70mph in the UK. I hope you did your speed testing on an autobahn...

No we tested it on a runway are aircraft take off in ww2 its two miles long and if i had wings I would of took off too the world first flying norton

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Nice one Anna! In any case our old nails/Nortons don't have very accurate speedos. My single carb 99 used to indicate 120mph at full throttle! (Before the 70mph restriction came in). They all tend to over-read. A SatNav is more accurate - unless it's up or down steep hills. The first time I let my wife drive our Mk10 Jaguar was in 1971 on RAFSt. Mawgan's runway (She didn't have a driving licence until 1988!). As we whistled along, I told her to start slowing down as we were coming to the end - the speedo was reading just over 100mph but the silence inside made it feel more like 40mph! The car weighed about 2 tons and was built like a tank - it even had seatbelts in the front! No matter how it was thrashed and even when towing a caravan it still did 14 mpg! surpriseCheers, Lionel

Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

Previously Gordon Johnston wrote:

But Anna, you are only allowed to travel at 70mph in the UK. I hope you did your speed testing on an autobahn...

No we tested it on a runway are aircraft take off in ww2 its two miles long and if i had wings I would of took off too the world first flying norton

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Previously lionel_yexley wrote:

Nice one Anna! In any case our old nails/Nortons don't have very accurate speedos. My single carb 99 used to indicate 120mph at full throttle! (Before the 70mph restriction came in). They all tend to over-read. A SatNav is more accurate - unless it's up or down steep hills. The first time I let my wife drive our Mk10 Jaguar was in 1971 on RAFSt. Mawgan's runway (She didn't have a driving licence until 1988!). As we whistled along, I told her to start slowing down as we were coming to the end - the speedo was reading just over 100mph but the silence inside made it feel more like 40mph! The car weighed about 2 tons and was built like a tank - it even had seatbelts in the front! No matter how it was thrashed and even when towing a caravan it still did 14 mpg! surpriseCheers, Lionel

Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

Previously Gordon Johnston wrote:

But Anna, you are only allowed to travel at 70mph in the UK. I hope you did your speed testing on an autobahn...

No we tested it on a runway are aircraft take off in ww2 its two miles long and if i had wings I would of took off too the world first flying norton

Hello Lionel well my 150mph speedo has been well serviced By Alan Gagg and he says its very accurate reading and well with in 3mph ether way ,so thats not bad for 54 year old speedo on a 54 year old bike , And I think it will see my days out as well , what a good bike these Manxman's are , its a real shame they all were exported and only 12 as made it back so far, so I very luck to have it so I am going to enjoy riding it until I fall of the perch as it were , yours Anna J

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Hello Lionel,

Superb car- the Mk10. I had a later V12 XJS and to get 14mpg you had to tell lies. If you used max performance and totally floored the throttle the fuel consumption meter on the XJS went blank meaning less that 5 mpg. That was way back in 1989 when petrol was still fairly cheap.

SORRY this has nothing to do with Nortons.

Patrick

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Aah - but there IS a cunning link! Runway testing! My next Mk10 was the 4.2 litre 1966 model - even faster and with better brakes and acceleration.

Anna - it's not the speedos that can be inaccurate so much as the tyre pressures and wear. Higher pressure or new tyres means the speedo will read slower; (Greater tyre circumference) heavy wear or lower pressure means it will read faster. A speedo will read differently depending on the tyre make and pressure even if it HAS been calibrated on the bench.

My Jaguar S-Type speedo read differently when the tyre were new, to now.

Cheers, Lionel

Previously patrick_mullen wrote:

Hello Lionel,

Superb car- the Mk10. I had a later V12 XJS and to get 14mpg you had to tell lies. If you used max performance and totally floored the throttle the fuel consumption meter on the XJS went blank meaning less that 5 mpg. That was way back in 1989 when petrol was still fairly cheap.

SORRY this has nothing to do with Nortons.

Patrick

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Previously lionel_yexley wrote:

Aah - but there IS a cunning link! Runway testing! My next Mk10 was the 4.2 litre 1966 model - even faster and with better brakes and acceleration.

Anna - it's not the speedos that can be inaccurate so much as the tyre pressures and wear. Higher pressure or new tyres means the speedo will read slower; (Greater tyre circumference) heavy wear or lower pressure means it will read faster. A speedo will read differently depending on the tyre make and pressure even if it HAS been calibrated on the bench.

My Jaguar S-Type speedo read differently when the tyre were new, to now.

Cheers, Lionel

Previously patrick_mullen wrote:

Hello Lionel,

Superb car- the Mk10. I had a later V12 XJS and to get 14mpg you had to tell lies. If you used max performance and totally floored the throttle the fuel consumption meter on the XJS went blank meaning less that 5 mpg. That was way back in 1989 when petrol was still fairly cheap.

SORRY this has nothing to do with Nortons.

Patrick

well the back tyre is 18 x4.00 and its 2:1 drive, and it 150mph speedo made for the USA so they have too be good, yours Anna J

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Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

yes. i agree with anna...if your small white knob comes undone it can be painfull...so a small adjustment is a good move. even if it not standard.

Previously John Shorter wrote:

What, a non-standard Manxman, how could you?!!

yes well you do up grade one or two items for your ease of using the machine , but at the end of the day its just a small white knob and most would not notice this, as these original fasting are not that good. and you have problems with them coming undone as there only light spring loaded and then you end up losing them , with my white knob you do not lose it, and it has a 1/4x 26 tpi thread , and your seat is securely fastened . and i have up graded my electrics to 12volt and up graded my kick stand too custom hand made one then hard chromed , with a special 4mm plate I made from Sheffield Stainless steel that bolts too the back of all the engine studs then is fitted around the bottom of the fame tube rail, so the stand then cannot move are where and it dose not get in the way of the back of the primary chain guard , and I used some nice high grade nickel steel nuts and stud bar with 3/8 x 26.tpi so nothing going any where with this fastened in and I have had to alter the seal base as the one that came with this machine was for the 650ss and it as a bigger tank too the Manxman so now it fit up to the tank right with No gap in between and then I hand made some nice spacers washers for some areas on the machine, there a one inch spacer for the left hand silencer bracket mounting to hold off the left hand silencer from hitting the back plate this is mounted in with the passager footrest that hold it all in place. as there some part for these machines you cannot buy ,so you have to make them your self if you have the skills that I have, yours anna j

 


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