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De-Luxe frame number prefix

Submitted by niall_topping on Mon, 28/01/2013
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With all this talk of frame numbers, here's a question which I'm sure someone will answer easily.

I have most of a De-Luxe in bits, and the frame number is the regular R14 8XXXX for a 1960 99, the frame is definitely right for a De-Luxe as it has some of the extra brackets still on, but in the old buff logbook it shows the prefix as R14D. When I did some research in the local archives for something else, I noticed a quite a lot of 1960 Nortons listed in the Vehicle registers with R14D, 14D or R122D frame numbers and one 19D, was this suffix 'D' actually marked on the bike, or was it just on the sales invoice to the dealer to denote a D/L and transcribed mistakenly into the registers?

I do know that when I eventually get round to rebuilding this bike it will be a nightmare to register if someone just forgot to mark the D, and the bike doesn't match the records.......

Submitted by Xanna_jeannett… on Fri, 01/03/2013

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Previously wrote:

Sorry for the delay, I have checked the logbook and frame, neither have a D on them. The date of reg is march 63 so not sure if that helps.

Hello Yes This Done Help AS this means that the Machine in question Is Not a De-lux Model and there was No Models made of a month in the change over to Pumbstead Yours Anna J Dixon

Submitted by robert_tuck on Fri, 01/03/2013

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There you go, I told you that a 650 DL is the rarest Norton ever!!, Think i'll have to build one so there will be at least one.

Submitted by mark_dinsdale on Fri, 01/03/2013

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Previously wrote:

Previously wrote:

Sorry for the delay, I have checked the logbook and frame, neither have a D on them. The date of reg is march 63 so not sure if that helps.

Hello Yes This Done Help AS this means that the Machine in question Is Not a De-lux Model and there was No Models made of a month in the change over to Pumbstead Yours Anna J Dixon

Sorry you are wrong, this was a DL as I ground the brackets off the frame, Roy Bacon lists the frame number as the last 650 DL. Remember the reg date is not the build date, it may have hung around at a dealer for months.....

I have a 1958 99 that was not registered until 1960 so that must have been in a showroom for at least a year......

Submitted by robert_tuck on Sat, 02/03/2013

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Is there a possibility that someone replaced a bent 650 frame with a cheap (nobody wan'ts one!) 99DL frame ? .

Submitted by mark_dinsdale on Sat, 02/03/2013

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Previously wrote:

Is there a possibility that someone replaced a bent 650 frame with a cheap (nobody wan'ts one!) 99DL frame ? .

Or maybe they dropped the D in 1960 when the letters were dropped... Who knows. The bike was purchased in the late 80's and had been in a shed for years and was mostly original other than the mudguards. Frame could have been swopped we will never know but it would take a lot to convince me.

My brother has a 56 88, stamped as L122, the V5c and the original green logbook list engine and frame as L112..... I'm sure many mistakes in records etc have been made.

Submitted by Xanna_jeannett… on Sun, 03/03/2013

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Previously wrote:

Previously wrote:

Is there a possibility that someone replaced a bent 650 frame with a cheap (nobody wan'ts one!) 99DL frame ? .

Or maybe they dropped the D in 1960 when the letters were dropped... Who knows. The bike was purchased in the late 80's and had been in a shed for years and was mostly original other than the mudguards. Frame could have been swopped we will never know but it would take a lot to convince me.

My brother has a 56 88, stamped as L122, the V5c and the original green logbook list engine and frame as L112..... I'm sure many mistakes in records etc have been made.

hello that was year that the workforce was on strike at bracebridge street , so someone must of been drunk .when stamp making the frame !

 


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