Centre Stand

Did you get the right spring? There are two types, of differing lengths. My own bike suffered from 'saggy stand syndrome' when I got it and it was some time before I discovered the reason.

And there are two different spring hooks as well. It's hard to see in the photo but are you sure that the hook is mounted correctly. On the earlier frame the hook swivels on the end of the engine mounting bolt and hooks over the stand/centre channel spacer. That's how it is on mine and the stand definitely does go back to the stop.

Patrick

Previously Dan Field wrote:

I've just fitted a new centre stand spring from the club, but am a bit underwhelmed! Unfortunately the stand doesn't sit back up against the stop (something I recall from my jubilee back in the day!) have I missed something? I have put the hook facing forwards as shown in the spares book, is that right?

photo is from a delux that turned up at wray bike night

not mine .....I still have a soggy mainstand!

Hi Dan,

I've had '65 Navigator and '64 Electra.

Both with same gearbox as yours. Your spring looks the right one. Assume you have the later curved link 21165 (anchor arm). And it rotates freely on the spigoted nut.

Try lifting the stand to it's stop. Is the spring still under tension? If not, you might be looking at the collective wear and clearances being very small, but enough to emasculate the stand spring.

On the Electra i had to refresh

Centre stand pivot clearance

Wear on centre stand cross bar

Wear on small and large holes in anchor arm

Wear on spigoted engine nut

When all was refreshed the stand whacked up to the stop when rolling bike forward, but it didn't have a great deal in reserve. Riding on a bumpy road often results in the centrestand dropping and returning. It's only those riders behind that see it.

The spring and mounting method in John Day's photo are definitely not standard. Suspect the spring will rub the frame fairly brutally when the stand is dropped.

Your new stand from NOC has a lever for the foot. Not on the Navigator as designed and it will add a little more load on the poorly designed stand spring. Same spring as the Electra.

You look to have taken great care on the rebuild. Well done.

Peter

Dan,

Forgot to add.

On my bike the stand will hit the silencer (standard for 1964 Electra) before the stand contacts the bare metal centre stand stop.

The rubber tube buffer needs to be in position to prevent continuous contact stand to silencer. Even so, rolling the bike off the stand can result in the rubber being compressed by the rapidly rising stand, and a charactertic clang as the stand hits the silencer.

I keep my toe over the stand and let it rise slowly.

Peter

It seems that the centre stop stop is another of those items where there are minor differences over the years. On the early Jubilee it bolts on in exactly the same way but the rolled over piece where the rubber fits is much more compressed/rounded so a cut down version of the rubber fitted to the gear lever fits. This rubber is noticeably thicker than the one now supplied. Probably for the very reason that Peter mentions above.

This piece of 'invaluable' information was given to me many years by Ray Sage when he was on Lightweight Spares.

Previously john_day wrote:

Previously Dan Field wrote:

I've just fitted a new centre stand spring from the club, but am a bit underwhelmed! Unfortunately the stand doesn't sit back up against the stop (something I recall from my jubilee back in the day!) have I missed something? I have put the hook facing forwards as shown in the spares book, is that right?

photo is from a delux that turned up at wray bike night

not mine .....I still have a soggy mainstand!

Previously Dan Field wrote:

I've just fitted a new centre stand spring from the club, but am a bit underwhelmed! Unfortunately the stand doesn't sit back up against the stop (something I recall from my jubilee back in the day!) have I missed something? I have put the hook facing forwards as shown in the spares book, is that right?

If you fit the spring this way round the centrestand will be pulled up higher. The larger `hook` tends to stretch so needs to be curved back into shape sometimes.. Stand may still sag but should be less.