International Rally Belgium 2017

Previously John Shorter wrote:

Although no further details have yet been published, on this site, the Flanders Branch are now accepting entries.

I am looking to take my Electra over can anyone tell me about the tented dorms and what is provided as I want to travel as light as possible

Also are there any other lightweight looking to go

I did the mc pistons last year a great time but no other lightweight in fact not that many Norton's

Trevor

I understand all petrol in Belgium is E10. Is there anywhere one can buy E0? My understanding is that E10 is not suitable for use in a vehicle using a carb?

Hi Neil,

My information is that all fuel in Belgium is E5 - the only countries who offer E10 is France,Germany and Finland. In these countries E10 is usually marked on the pump. As for vehicles using carbs - I'll leave that one for the real techies!

Peter - International Liaison

Hi Peter.

Impossible FOR ME to send an internet link.

I just typed into yahoo search: 'E10 petrol in Belgium' and several came back. It appears that this stuff was introduced from 1st January this year.

No doubt just a matter of time before the carbon phobics make this the only choice. No choice! I just want Norton riders to be aware.

The 95 here in Belgium is now E10 but the 'Eurosuper 98' is unchanged (so presumably 5% ?)

That said, most Belgian fuel stinks of ethanol with Total being by far the worst offender.

Esso seems the most predictable and I run 98 with a Miller's fuel treatment just in case.

There are a lot of small garages here selling brands that nobody has ever heard of. I steer clear of them. They buy on price and will sell anything that they can get away with although most of the fiddling seems to go on with diesel.

I had a very quick look on the internet and found this for those wanting to remove small amounts of ethanol from pump supplied petrol.

http://www.ethanil.co.uk

If they had any sense, nobody filled up with E10 last year and best advice is not to do it on purpose in Belgium this year.

It is very difficult to know what problems can be attributed to fuel and there is likely to be a difference between engines that have done some miles with residual protection from earlier fuels and those which have been newly built.

I have to remove quantities of water from the carb of the 16H if I leave it standing with fuel in for more than a week or two (I try not to) I've also destroyed two sets of grease lubricated valve guides in less than 1000 miles. It seems self-evident that modern fuel does not evaporate leaving the lubricity and 'greasiness' of earlier blends. Whether this is due to the ethanol or the other chemicals used in the blend is something that we're not told.

Leaded fuel certainly provided valve stem lubrication and I now use a manganese substitute. In conjunction with plasma-coated G&S valves, so far, so good after 2000 miles...Maybe it's not down to fuel but it seems a strange problem to suddenly start arising in a machine where more than 100,000 were built.

A chap in Real Classic with an open-valve Model 18 had a similar problem. I think it's odds-on that fuel is a factor. I'd rather not have to use it and am angry that the choice has been taken away from me.

Previously trevor_veale wrote:

Previously John Shorter wrote:

Although no further details have yet been published, on this site, the Flanders Branch are now accepting entries.

I am looking to take my Electra over can anyone tell me about the tented dorms and what is provided as I want to travel as light as possible

Also are there any other lightweight looking to go

I did the mc pistons last year a great time but no other lightweight in fact not that many Norton's

Trevor

I've just booked online and it said you need to bring your ow n sleeping bag. I assume by this that they supply a camping style bed. It might be worth emailing Marc.triton@skynet.be and ask him what facilities there are to sleep on. Cheers Don

Previously trevor_veale wrote:

Previously John Shorter wrote:

Although no further details have yet been published, on this site, the Flanders Branch are now accepting entries.

I am looking to take my Electra over can anyone tell me about the tented dorms and what is provided as I want to travel as light as possible

Also are there any other lightweight looking to go

I did the mc pistons last year a great time but no other lightweight in fact not that many Norton's

Trevor

I've just booked online and it said you need to bring your ow n sleeping bag. I assume by this that they supply a camping style bed. It might be worth emailing Marc.triton@skynet.be and ask him what facilities there are to sleep on. Cheers Don

Previously donald_tovey wrote:

Previously trevor_veale wrote:

Previously John Shorter wrote:

Although no further details have yet been published, on this site, the Flanders Branch are now accepting entries.

I am looking to take my Electra over can anyone tell me about the tented dorms and what is provided as I want to travel as light as possible

Also are there any other lightweight looking to go

I did the mc pistons last year a great time but no other lightweight in fact not that many Norton's

Trevor

I've just booked online and it said you need to bring your ow n sleeping bag. I assume by this that they supply a camping style bed. It might be worth emailing Marc.triton@skynet.be and ask him what facilities there are to sleep on. Cheers Don

I e-mailed Marc 2weeks ago but no reply I will need to email him again Trevor

Previously John Shorter wrote:

Hi Trevor, I know Marc is very busy, at present, but he contacted me less than two weeks ago. The email address he used was:-

marc.m.m@skynet.be Maybe you should try that one.

p.s. If you had gone to the Colombres Rally, instead of the MP, you would have seen more Nortons !

Hi John

I have booked the rally and had confirmation back from Marc and the euro tunnel for mid day so all being well I should arrive 4pm ish trevor