Hi all,I attended the Barber Motorsports Vintage bike event recently in the USA. It was my first time there & had a ball. What an awesome event.I decided to fly down from Cleveland Ohio, rent a car, and not take too much money (to prevent me from bringing home a project). Well, there I was minding my own business & up pops a very sad & derelict, incomplete plunger ES2 mis-marked as a 1953. As we all now, the swing arm frame came out in '53, so something was amiss! No petrol tank, no mudguards, no toolbox, wrong forks (BSA items) with extended slugs for that Captain America look, and a frame bent (and broken) on the top & front tubes in order to get some rake for the ever popular '70's era chopper. Asking price: $1700 USD. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, I said to my self, if I had the cash, I might entertain making an offer, I see those lay-down gearboxes going for over $1,000, & a fairly complete ES2 engine with the magneto (less carb) is surely worth the asking price of the whole bike, right? A good friend of mine does these types of frame repairs routinely for many of the AMCA members bikes (mostly HD & Indians), My pal Ed Vanaman has a Powde rcoating company, and my magneto/dynamo repair sideline is very very busy HMMMMMM. So, I call a friend who is also at barber (who I know just sold a couple of bikes at the swap meet) and said, hey- can I borrow about $1500? He foolishly said "sure". Now, how to get this basket case on the plane home, no, that wont work at all ............. I got it! I know a guy who is racing, he has a van & a trailer at the meet! So I call him & say "hey man, can you cart a few bike parts back to Ohio for me", without asking how many, or how heavy, he says sure, cover 1/2 the fuel bill for the trip & were all good ($50). NICE!!!!, so I go back to the swap meet vendor & say, the best I can do for your $1700 pile-o-parts is $1500. We shake hands, a deal is done, a bill of sale is drawn up (no title), now to borrow a 2 wheel dolly to cart this hulk to the van. I find a very nice lady who offers me her dolly for free & off I go, 4 trips back & forth & viola!So, my '57 model 77 has been my daily rider & now needs a speedometer drive (after the guts flew out the back one day), my '50 model 7 sits on the bench, 90% complete (for the last 2 years) as customers magneto repairs have taken all of my time. The '60 Norton Nomad project has been moving slow as I gather uber rare parts before attempting assembly, now I bought a "nowhere near complete" ES2 (probably from 1952).I have always wanted a Norton single, in fact, about a year ago I did a trade for a newly rebuilt Lucas Magdyno for a friends ES2, for his 500T trials front forks, complete with the early scalloped brake drum and the special rare upper fork tube covers sans headlight ears, with the competition number plate brackets, and reduced rake triple trees (very rare) for trials use. So here I am with an ES2 that needs a pair of Long roadholders (different from the short roadholders), and I have a set of 500t roadholders sitting in the corner, lonely, neglected. The problem is, with the reduced rake of the 500T front end, it would not be a good idea to use that front end on a street bike. I would however be willing to either sell the triple trees & competition upper fork covers to someone with a 500T. I would also consider a trade & cash if someone had the alloy upper covers with the headlamp ears as well as a period set of triple clamps, or other ES2 parts that I may be able to use.What is wrong with us anyway, buying this old crusty metal with dreams of grandeur of it someday being restored ? I guess it keeps us off the streets, and it keeps our tools from getting too rusty Any words of advice, encouragement, or scorn welcomedSkip BrolundP.S. the Barber Motorsports park has the worlds largest motorcycle museum on site, as well as an Indy quality racetrack on 800 acres of wooded park like land.
Crikey Skip, if I met a ni…
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Skip Sounds like a good pr…
Skip
Sounds like a good project, but we need photos!
Standard long roadholder yolks come up from time to time, I think the club had at least one recently? Have you looked? I picked up a set of drum brake commando forks sliders and stanchions at Netley auto jumble and swapped them almost immediately for a full set of long roadholders and yolks in great condition. I'd be tempted to do a deal on your yolks as my ES2 is in trials trim but it's a twinshock with a modded frame and I think the extra rake would put the wheel under the tank!
Keep us posted
dan
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Just spotted a pair of the…
Just spotted a pair of the appropriate headlight ears here:
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A friend in the US has a s…
A friend in the US has a set of long Roadholders available. I believe that they came with Model 7 parts. Would they be identical to ES2 or at least usable ?
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Skip, If you would conside…
Skip,
If you would consider selling the 500T upper fork cover, I would be interested.
Roger
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Thank you all for the comm…
Thank you all for the comments!
I figured I would offer the front end to club members first, but since no offers were made (December of last year) I put it up on Ebay. A Frenchman bought the front end for 537 GBP & paid 124 GBP in shipping. Glad to see it to a Norton project (an auctual 500T in this case). I had a local custom bike guy want to buy it from me, but its such a rare & hard to find item, I just couldnt let it go to him.
I will include some pics soon!
I have been very busy with my day job & at night & weekends & have been busy rebuilding mags & dynamos for others. Not much time for my own projects lately, but I have been acquiring ES2 parts. I have acquires another plunger frame, 2 petrol tanks, one chrome & painted already with minor scuffs, the other in a painted state, needing refinishing. I am in process of a trade for some magneto work in exchange for a long roadholder front end (more on that later). The headlight ears will be difficult to find, I just passed on a set on ebay UK that were missing most of the bottom spigot, which is very thin, not an easy thing to repair, plus it had a couple of holes drilled in it (an easy repair). I am in process of a trade with a new friend in Toronto Canada (the guy I got the nicer petrol tank from), for his old Amal carb from his ES2 project. I recently acquires a complete rear fender stay for the bike & a pair of pillion peg castings.
As a Wassell dealer I will use the Wassell extra large Norton seat with springs. Most other parts that I will need to buy new will be UK made parts purchased from my UK distributors. Most of my nuts & bolts will be stainless steel that I will glass bead to look like satin chrome.
I was watching the Norton Pushrod Singles Engine video I bought from the club & am looking forward to doing the engine.
I should really start looking for fenders (sorry, mudguards) & a tool box now I have not yet done any research on what differences (if any) from the other plunger frame Norton mudguards.
Thank you!
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I didn't notice that the…
I didn't notice that the first post was from October last year....why did it suddenly appear at the top of the listings ?
Most odd...
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Thanks Mike! Sadly those e…
Thanks Mike! Sadly those ears are for a later year. I have that style on my '57 model 77 though. The earlier ones look like a banana on the sides
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Crikey Skip, if I met a nice lady who offered me her dolly for free, I'd consider the weekend a success whether I came home with a Norton project or not...
My feeling is that you'd be better off with road-going parts. The 500T parts would surely find a good home reasonably easily.