My Norton

Not much to do then.

Hmm, plenty of tread on the tyres then!

Its funny how different people may look at the same thing & see something different. Some may see a rusty pile-o-junk, I see a complete bike!! My M77 started out with a frame, rear wheel, most of the engine & gearbox, I would have loved to have all the parts like this one has. Awesome find, good luck!!!!

Ooh, what a great find! I am currently working on a couple of bikes which have been stored in a shed for almost 50 years. I changed the mag on one and it started 2nd kick! It's amazing how well the oily bits last. Something to be said for the curse of the Brit bikes...

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ok iv put the siamese down pipe on ebay if eny one is interested in it

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280821039051?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

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ok iv put the siamese down pipe on ebay if eny one is interested in it

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280821039051?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

Hello These Pipes On Ebay will not fit your Model .These are for a 650SS if you Look . I have room on my bench if my want me to rebuild you this machine a easy one all the tin-wear it there , try getting tin-wear for a 1954 dominator .like mudguards .i have had to make my own ? And I see that Royal cursaders are make some nice tin wear from Dominator now like wideline mudguard in chrome but when you look you will see there for the Slimline frame NOT the Wideline , they also make tanks in chrome for 1954 and 1955 model dominators the is a diffrence the 54 model have a wing filler cap ,the 55 models as a burnit fitting fuel cap , all so if you need the paint for your Norton then go too Nu-againe Paints Bedford ,These Guys are The Best in the Paint Business .they been doing it for over 60 years , You need Signal or post office Red in cellose base then lacqured over the top .And to treat rusty cycle parts clean with a big wire rotary brush ,but wear the right protective clothing and eye wear ,and the same when you are using a spray gun for painting and only paint where there is NO naked lights ,ie flames ! gas or electric fires .if you need to heat the room your working in do this first get the room up to the tempreture you need , and when you ready to spray paint switch OFF any Heat source you have been using. Best undercoat Zinc 182 Isopon ,Hope this may help you in some way.ALLWAY Think! SAFETY first! Yours Anna J ps . Happy rebuild

Anna, if you had bothered to read Chris's post, you would have seen that he is SELLING the siamesed down pipes, not intending to buy them. He knows they are wrong for his bike, but, if you look at his photos, they DO fit! Since the Dominator in question is obviously later than '54, or '55, why are you waffling about early tinware? Since Chris has taken on a major restoration, he probably knows what he is doing. Stop teaching grandma to suck eggs"

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Anna, if you had bothered to read Chris's post, you would have seen that he is SELLING the siamesed down pipes, not intending to buy them. He knows they are wrong for his bike, but, if you look at his photos, they DO fit! Since the Dominator in question is obviously later than '54, or '55, why are you waffling about early tinware? Since Chris has taken on a major restoration, he probably knows what he is doing. Stop teaching grandma to suck eggs!

Hello John, Well The Bike in the photo bucket is from late 1958/9 Not 1955 , And as on Ebay this does not not reveal the seller , of these exhaust pipes , so carm down now and the tin-wear I was writing about is on sale on Ebay if you care to read my posting .ps I am a grandma ! and 650ss exhaust will not fit a 1955 machine ? and I would Not call this a Major restoration ether it just a easy rebuild.A major restoration is when you making most of the parts your self From patens ! Anna J

What are you on about Anna? The thread was started by Chris, with photos of the Dommy he had bought to restore. The photos clearly show a siamese exhaust (which he is now offering for sale). No one, except you, has ever mentioned a '54, or '55 Dominator. The only one to mention e-bay was Chris, when he put them for sale. Of course he doesn't want to buy them, but, they would fit his bike, because he has just taken them off! John.

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Anna, if you had bothered to read Chris's post, you would have seen that he is SELLING the siamesed down pipes, not intending to buy them. He knows they are wrong for his bike, but, if you look at his photos, they DO fit! Since the Dominator in question is obviously later than '54, or '55, why are you waffling about early tinware? Since Chris has taken on a major restoration, he probably knows what he is doing. Stop teaching grandma to suck eggs"

Hello John, Well The Bike in the photo bucket is from late 1958/9 Not 1955 , And as on Ebay this does not not reveal the seller , of these exhaust pipes , so carm down now and the tin-wear I was writing about is on sale on Ebay if you care to read my posting .ps I am a grandma ! and 650ss exhaust will not fit a 1955 machine ? and I would Not call this a Major restoration ether it just a easy rebuild.A major restoration is when you making most of the parts your self From patens ! Anna J

Absolute rubbish with appalling spelling and grammar, as we have come to expect! This type of response spoils a generally good site.

John,

Be fair- you forget the entertainment factor. I ALWAYS read the comments by AJD. I wonder when the fabulous Norton Manx(wo)man, best model of all times, will creep into this here post.

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John,

Be fair- you forget the entertainment factor. I ALWAYS read the comments by AJD. I wonder when the fabulous Norton Manx(wo)man, best model of all times, will creep into this here post.

Quite! Anna's posts are always entertaining and one should observe that she knows more about Nortons than many although I accept that separating the wheat is sometimes difficult. By the way, I believe John is wrong. The siamese pipes that Chris is selling on Ebay are not the ones pictured on his bike but 650SS ones that he bought in error.

Cheers

Alan

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John,

Be fair- you forget the entertainment factor. I ALWAYS read the comments by AJD. I wonder when the fabulous Norton Manx(wo)man, best model of all times, will creep into this here post.

Quite! Anna's posts are always entertaining and one should observe that she knows more about Nortons than many although I accept that separating the wheat is sometimes difficult. By the way, I believe John is wrong. The siamese pipes that Chris is selling on Ebay are not the ones pictured on his bike but 650SS ones that he bought in error.

Cheers

Alan

O.K. Alan, I may have got it wrong about the pipes which were up for sale. For the rest; "Midsommer Murders" was entertaining at first, but, with the same plot, week after week, became boring!

Cheers, John.

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Anna, if you had bothered to read Chris's post, you would have seen that he is SELLING the siamesed down pipes, not intending to buy them. He knows they are wrong for his bike, but, if you look at his photos, they DO fit! Since the Dominator in question is obviously later than '54, or '55, why are you waffling about early tinware? Since Chris has taken on a major restoration, he probably knows what he is doing. Stop teaching grandma to suck eggs"

Hello John, Well The Bike in the photo bucket is from late 1958/9 Not 1955 , And as on Ebay this does not not reveal the seller , of these exhaust pipes , so carm down now and the tin-wear I was writing about is on sale on Ebay if you care to read my posting .ps I am a grandma ! and 650ss exhaust will not fit a 1955 machine ? and I would Not call this a Major restoration ether it just a easy rebuild.A major restoration is when you making most of the parts your self From patens ! Anna J

Absolute rubbish with appalling spelling and grammar, as we have come to expect! This type of response spoils a generally good site.

Hello John M if do not like that you read then do not log on and read it! andtheres no need to insult me ether when its not called for , that will the younger riders think ?

Lovely jubbly!! Is that a dangerous spot of paint I can see?Replace that with some proper rust IMMEDIATELY! It looks in just about the same condition as mine after it had nearly 40 years of neglect - outside in all weathers formany years, in a leaky shed and in a leaky conservatory!(See my pics in the member's gallery)

In spite of what Anna says, it definitely IS a major restoration as rusty tinware is the most difficult part of a bike to restore. OK, she is a hero for making her own mudguards!

I sympathise with dyslexic people. I help run a charity for vulnerable adults, most of whom are dyslexic to a greater or lesser extent (although that is not what the charity is there for) and we found that printing out leaflets and literature using coloured ink (Plum is our preference) on a vanilla or any pastel coloured background enabled them to read it more easily. Black on white is absolutely useless. I suspect that there are regular contributors to this site who are also dyslexic so let's be tolerant towards their spelling. They might find this suggestion helps if they set it up on their computer.

If you're really keen I'd recommend you went the route of restoring your tinware with an electrolytic kit. It can do wonders and is not anywhere near as aggressive as blasting or using a wire wheel. Some rust is actually converted into useful steel. Using the least abrasion is important for thin, rustytinware especially.

Cheers, Lionel

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Lovely jubbly!! Is that a dangerous spot of paint I can see?Replace that with some proper rust IMMEDIATELY! It looks in just about the same condition as mine after it had nearly 40 years of neglect - outside in all weathers formany years, in a leaky shed and in a leaky conservatory!(See my pics in the member's gallery)

In spite of what Anna says, it definitely IS a major restoration as rusty tinware is the most difficult part of a bike to restore. OK, she is a hero for making her own mudguards!

I sympathise with dyslexic people. I help run a charity for vulnerable adults, most of whom are dyslexic to a greater or lesser extent (although that is not what the charity is there for) and we found that printing out leaflets and literature using coloured ink (Plum is our preference) on a vanilla or any pastel coloured background enabled them to read it more easily. Black on white is absolutely useless. I suspect that there are regular contributors to this site who are also dyslexic so let's be tolerant towards their spelling. They might find this suggestion helps if they set it up on their computer.

If you're really keen I'd recommend you went the route of restoring your tinware with an electrolytic kit. It can do wonders and is not anywhere near as aggressive as blasting or using a wire wheel. Some rust is actually converted into useful steel. Using the least abrasion is important for thin, rustytinware especially.

Cheers, Lionel

Hello Lionel Yes i agree that it maybe a major job for you guy ot do but for me its not as all the tin-wear it present even if it got some rust on it , which its better than nothing like I had too deal with on my 1954 dominator the only tin wear on the bike was the tool tray and the oil tank the rest of the tin-wear , I had to find it or make it my self , and how many female riders do you know that as a go at a major rebuild like what i had , the gear box was in a real state as was the engine and magneto and dynamo , and I am dyslexic too and have been all my life but I get by ,in 1995 I have a major brake down , after shock of losing my brests and female parts down there though cancer , nearly lost my life to 18 months of hell and two years after I had the brake down lost my memory ,since then I have had to learn my self , every thing ? even go through taking my bike test again .I not too good now , as I have cateract on my left eye and just see with my right eye , so no worries then , and wirting these thread when the bold key is on the blink ,makes it a bit harder , but I know you lot like reading my threads , or I would not get the julia cesser treatment stabbed in the back? verbally that is but hey go on ,I do not mind my back is big enough for you to all have go , And as for my Norton manxman 650 you all like have a go with big hammers that that too ? but if there was No manxman there would not be any Commando motorcycles, now would here ? So go on lads have a bash at anna ,there on one eles to have ago that ? That the Agm I will ware my stabb vest , Yours Anna J Dixon

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Lovely jubbly!! Is that a dangerous spot of paint I can see?Replace that with some proper rust IMMEDIATELY! It looks in just about the same condition as mine after it had nearly 40 years of neglect - outside in all weathers formany years, in a leaky shed and in a leaky conservatory!(See my pics in the member's gallery)

In spite of what Anna says, it definitely IS a major restoration as rusty tinware is the most difficult part of a bike to restore. OK, she is a hero for making her own mudguards!

I sympathise with dyslexic people. I help run a charity for vulnerable adults, most of whom are dyslexic to a greater or lesser extent (although that is not what the charity is there for) and we found that printing out leaflets and literature using coloured ink (Plum is our preference) on a vanilla or any pastel coloured background enabled them to read it more easily. Black on white is absolutely useless. I suspect that there are regular contributors to this site who are also dyslexic so let's be tolerant towards their spelling. They might find this suggestion helps if they set it up on their computer.

If you're really keen I'd recommend you went the route of restoring your tinware with an electrolytic kit. It can do wonders and is not anywhere near as aggressive as blasting or using a wire wheel. Some rust is actually converted into useful steel. Using the least abrasion is important for thin, rustytinware especially.

Cheers, Lionel

Hello Lionel Yes i agree that it maybe a major job for you guy ot do but for me its not as all the tin-wear it present even if it got some rust on it , which its better than nothing like I had too deal with on my 1954 dominator the only tin wear on the bike was the tool tray and the oil tank the rest of the tin-wear , I had to find it or make it my self , and how many female riders do you know that as a go at a major rebuild like what i had , the gear box was in a real state as was the engine and magneto and dynamo , and I am dyslexic too and have been all my life but I get by ,in 1995 I have a major brake down , after shock of losing my brests and female parts down there though cancer , nearly lost my life to 18 months of hell and two years after I had the brake down lost my memory ,since then I have had to learn my self , every thing ? even go through taking my bike test again .I not too good now , as I have cateract on my left eye and just see with my right eye , so no worries then , and wirting these thread when the bold key is on the blink ,makes it a bit harder , but I know you lot like reading my threads , or I would not get the julia cesser treatment stabbed in the back? verbally that is but hey go on ,I do not mind my back is big enough for you to all have go , And as for my Norton manxman 650 you all like have a go with big hammers that that too ? but if there was No manxman there would not be any Commando motorcycles, now would here ? So go on lads have a bash at anna ,there on one eles to have ago that ? That the Agm I will ware my stabb vest , Yours Anna J Dixon

Hi Anna, I still don't agree that it's an easy job for anyone (even you!) However I'm sorry to hear about all your problems, I will try to be a bit more understanding in future. I am also slightly dyslexic and an engineer so my English is not too good either!

Cheers, John Mac

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Lovely jubbly!! Is that a dangerous spot of paint I can see?Replace that with some proper rust IMMEDIATELY! It looks in just about the same condition as mine after it had nearly 40 years of neglect - outside in all weathers formany years, in a leaky shed and in a leaky conservatory!(See my pics in the member's gallery)

In spite of what Anna says, it definitely IS a major restoration as rusty tinware is the most difficult part of a bike to restore. OK, she is a hero for making her own mudguards!

I sympathise with dyslexic people. I help run a charity for vulnerable adults, most of whom are dyslexic to a greater or lesser extent (although that is not what the charity is there for) and we found that printing out leaflets and literature using coloured ink (Plum is our preference) on a vanilla or any pastel coloured background enabled them to read it more easily. Black on white is absolutely useless. I suspect that there are regular contributors to this site who are also dyslexic so let's be tolerant towards their spelling. They might find this suggestion helps if they set it up on their computer.

If you're really keen I'd recommend you went the route of restoring your tinware with an electrolytic kit. It can do wonders and is not anywhere near as aggressive as blasting or using a wire wheel. Some rust is actually converted into useful steel. Using the least abrasion is important for thin, rustytinware especially.

Cheers, Lionel

Hello Lionel Yes i agree that it maybe a major job for you guy ot do but for me its not as all the tin-wear it present even if it got some rust on it , which its better than nothing like I had too deal with on my 1954 dominator the only tin wear on the bike was the tool tray and the oil tank the rest of the tin-wear , I had to find it or make it my self , and how many female riders do you know that as a go at a major rebuild like what i had , the gear box was in a real state as was the engine and magneto and dynamo , and I am dyslexic too and have been all my life but I get by ,in 1995 I have a major brake down , after shock of losing my brests and female parts down there though cancer , nearly lost my life to 18 months of hell and two years after I had the brake down lost my memory ,since then I have had to learn my self , every thing ? even go through taking my bike test again .I not too good now , as I have cateract on my left eye and just see with my right eye , so no worries then , and wirting these thread when the bold key is on the blink ,makes it a bit harder , but I know you lot like reading my threads , or I would not get the julia cesser treatment stabbed in the back? verbally that is but hey go on ,I do not mind my back is big enough for you to all have go , And as for my Norton manxman 650 you all like have a go with big hammers that that too ? but if there was No manxman there would not be any Commando motorcycles, now would here ? So go on lads have a bash at anna ,there on one eles to have ago that ? That the Agm I will ware my stabb vest , Yours Anna J Dixon

Hi Anna, I still don't agree that it's an easy job for anyone (even you!) However I'm sorry to hear about all your problems, I will try to be a bit more understanding in future. I am also slightly dyslexic and an engineer so my English is not too good either!

Cheers, John Mac

Hello John Yes I do agree with this comment, But its even harder when you Have No Tin-wear at all to start with , And you Have find it or make it your self , And I was a Marine engineer way back in the 70s ,But what I been through as put the brakes on that , and I had to learn it all again , so where in the same Boat so to say ? I have a 1954 dominator to built on my brithday march 10th 1954 , life is not easy . and where all try our best to get by and keep our machines on the road , in this finacal down turn . So we must pull togeather as a club and give each other a helping hand now and again , yours anna j Dixon

And now, back to the show!

Sorry about all that drama Chris!!!!!!

Excellentjob, great bike, you should be proud!

Hopefully the weather will cooperate for you to get some miles on it. Dont forget tore torquethe exhaust nuts, cylinder head, & steering head bearings according to your manual & double check allfasteners. Its easy to forget one on a project like yours!

Good luck & ride safe!

Skip Brolund

Hi Chris

Your restoration looks quite impressive and I can appreciate the hard work required to achieve such a good result, having just completed a similar challenge myself.

Your2 into 1 exhaust looks to be a good fit. Is it new or the old one rechromed?

Theengine in my bike is a 99 with a standard head andlike you Ipurchased a new 2 into 1 exhaust system that for other reasons did not fit.

It came with a series of clever adapters and spacers thatenabled the exhaust nuts to slide over the pipe ends and clamp it up with collets like some of the Jap bikes use.

The difference with my 2 into 1 systembeing.......... it was correct for the cylinder head but either fell out of the exhaust ports when all the spacers were in place or knocked against the timing cover if they were left out. When the spacers were omitted, the system leakedserious amounts of fumes and noise. I have had to do some bodging to get it all working but have some doubts as to the long-term success of my efforts.

To add to the misery, the end pipe points slightly downwards and this results in a kink where the silencer joins it. From the side it looks SILLY!!!

Does anyone know of asupplier of 2into 1 exhaust system that - a) fits correctly & b) does not match the Greek debt in terms of cost?

Thanks for the info.

Armours is not too far away from my part of the world.

On the other hand the swept backs that I got from Armours for my 99 cafe racer were not at all right.

Good luck is needed I think.

Cheers

Alan

I have a siamese bought from RGM, that has a collet system on one side (so it looks odd) it also is a bad fit ,but i have used it,reluctantly.

Hi Chris, no insurance is required, until you want to use the bike on the road. I assume you are applying for a new registration document (V5 C). Your bike should be classified as an "Historic Vehicle". Once you have the V5 C, you can get a tax disk from most post offices. You will have to show insurance certificate, M.O.T., and the registration document. The "Tax disk" is free, but you will get fined for riding without one! Presumably this is to make it easy for the police to run a check, when using their new toys (number plate recognition computers). Don't thrash the bike, for the first 500 miles. You don't want to ruin all your hard work! All the best, John.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/spliffguy/norton/HPIM0650.jpg

Does anyone know how close the Armour's items are to the small-bore siamese's fitted to some 99SS's?

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Anna, if you had bothered to read Chris's post, you would have seen that he is SELLING the siamesed down pipes, not intending to buy them. He knows they are wrong for his bike, but, if you look at his photos, they DO fit! Since the Dominator in question is obviously later than '54, or '55, why are you waffling about early tinware? Since Chris has taken on a major restoration, he probably knows what he is doing. Stop teaching grandma to suck eggs"

Hello John, Well The Bike in the photo bucket is from late 1958/9 Not 1955 , And as on Ebay this does not not reveal the seller , of these exhaust pipes , so carm down now and the tin-wear I was writing about is on sale on Ebay if you care to read my posting .ps I am a grandma ! and 650ss exhaust will not fit a 1955 machine ? and I would Not call this a Major restoration ether it just a easy rebuild.A major restoration is when you making most of the parts your self From patens ! Anna J

Absolute rubbish with appalling spelling and grammar, as we have come to expect! This type of response spoils a generally good site.

well start with your self first before nit picking any one else Yours Anna J

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http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/spliffguy/norton/HPIM0650.jpg

Does anyone know how close the Armour's items are to the small-bore siamese's fitted to some 99SS's?

Hello I have yet to find a After Market Exhaust Manufacture with Silencers and Exhaust pipes made For Norton Twin that are the same as what was made by Norton Moto Bracebridge street Aston Birmingham

Because ever one I have come across as been wrong in some way or another most do not fit correctly .so most of them are next to useless .And a wast of good hard earn't money Yours Anna J Dixon

Well I think I will machine some out of a solid billet, if I can just find a pattern

Steve

Armours have just supplied a pair of pipes and silencers for my 1957 Dommie99 which fit perfectly. Less hassle than the siamesed type, and as ex-works. Good firm, I think, as they make the pipes there.

My Atlas-engined 99 has been running on Armours pipes and silencers for more years than I can remember. They are a good fit and the chrome has lasted many years and countless salty winter miles. Can't complain.

My Armours siamezed pipe (88SS) (bought maybe 8 years ago) fits well to the SS typeDommie head. Two slight issues:

1) Itisinevitable from the physics that the chrome plating will not be as good in the re-entrant between the pipes. So that is where the plating is going slightly.

2) One pipe is attached over a hole cut in the side of the other. The outside welding is pretty good; but the inner hole is not really quite as big as it should be. So presumably gas flow is a bit more restricted at that point than it should be.

I have always felt that the bike vibrates a little bit more with the siamezed pipes. Maybe different gas flow causes it. I don't notice any performance difference but maybe it is there somewhere at maximum revs. There is a slight weight saving but it isn't any better looking to my sight - especially if the prmiary chain case is not plated. And it was always an optiion so isn't really necessary if your are hunting authenticity. I keep mine because my twin pipes are rusted through underneath.

One collar is captive. I needed to select what material (I can't remember the options now but be ready for the question...)

The Vic Willoughby road test attributed big performance gains to the optional small bore siamese pipes on the 99SS. Having been eviscerated on this forum for suggesting that I might use non-standard valve springs, I thought I might go for something standard-looking for the highly visible pipes. Does anybody know what OD the originals were or what OD the Armours versions are?

Going to swap out the 1 3/4" crank for something more standard too.

I would take the big performance gains with a pinch of salt. As we all know, road test bikes didn't just come straight off the production line. If Norton wanted to demonstrate that the new small bore pipes were a big improvement, I am sure the works prepared road test bike would demonstrate an improvement. Or am I just being overly cynical? In any case, with these old crocks we ride, just how often are we going to try and wring out the last bit of performance? Probably once, ending with a big bang. Unless of course you have a 1 3/4" crank with new forged rods then it should be safe enough.

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My Armours siamezed pipes are 1 + 3/8 inches OD.

The Vic Willoughby road test attributed big performance gains to the optional small bore siamese pipes on the 99SS. Having been eviscerated on this forum for suggesting that I might use non-standard valve springs, I thought I might go for something standard-looking for the highly visible pipes. Does anybody know what OD the originals were or what OD the Armours versions are?

Going to swap out the 1 3/4" crank for something more standard too.

I am under the impression that Armour now buy in their stock, the fact that they have one set of pipes to fit 88 and 99 motors when Norton needed two sets tells me something,Do not expect perfection but be glad you can have something to complain about.

Hi Steve, I can confirm that John Hudson also told me that the 99SS ran better with siamese pipes. That's whyI bought them at my first rebuild. I still have them but they have been negrected for more that 40 years! A touch of filler and WD40 should sort them out though!

Odd that thereis only one set of pipes labelled as suitable for both the 88 and 99 - as we all know they are different and have different part numbers. Several people advertise their services of making exhaust pipes in OBM and other bike mags. Expensive I expect! I've gotplumbing bending springs - will that help?

Cheers, Lionel

I wonder what brand pipes Kev Feltoe is running on his model 77 (model 99 engine) with sidecar???

ATB,

Skip

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Armours have just supplied a pair of pipes and silencers for my 1957 Dommie99 which fit perfectly. Less hassle than the siamesed type, and as ex-works. Good firm, I think, as they make the pipes there.

Hello all Armours Do Not Make Exhaust Pipes and Silencers Any more There Now Made Else were . And No One Has Made Exhaust Pipes and Silencers For The Manxman . As it as its Own set. And was Not fitted To any other Norton twin . The Silencers are some what special with a welded triangular shaped bracket that is fix along the top at one side, And the silencers are made from heavy guage steel .And they have seams down the sides with a heavy layer of Chrome all over the silencers , They Have two Baffles one in side the other and at the end on the outer baffle is a domed shaped ,There a lot quieter ,and sound nicer . then the 650ss type silencers . and they will not be easy to make. yours anna j

Lionel

Thanks for your input, and sorry to be a chippy autodidact, but:

The Norton 1961/62 Parts List offers the same p/ns for 1961 88ss and 61/62 99ss

23830Exhaust Pipe, left hand (Siamese)

and

23831 Exhaust pipe, right hand c/with lock ring (Siamese)

plus

23891 Clip for left hand to right hand pipe, c/with nut and bolt.

So it looks like they were the same for the 88 and 99.

Anna - Luckily I have the original silencer which I will try to get re-chromed. Wish I hadn't abandoned the pipes when I moved house.

Steve