Arrrgh! I've just lashed out £160+ on a 'proper' new 22611 side stand and 22610 stud from the NOCshop for my Navigator, only to find that on fitting it the mounting lug rotates slightly under the weight of the bike even when the stud is nipped up tight. When the leg is extended fully forward it's at an angle that can't support the bike.
Pictures attached - have I mounted it incorrectly? Is there a part missing? I sincerely hope so.
I know that alternative side stands have been discussed ad-nauseum in previous posts over the years, so no need to repeat all those pearls of wisdom thanks. Rather I'd be grateful for your laser-focussed comments on the correct way to securely mount the 22611 stand so my bike doesn't end up on it's side! Thanks in advance for your advice!
Nick H
p.s. Yes, the spring is temporary, pending the right one coming.
Sidestand bracket
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Don’t know if these pics…
Don’t know if these pics help - original ss, fitted well and no “swivelling”. Did find the leg was too forward, dropped a bead of weld on the bracket to stop the leg going too far and Jub sits at a good angle now.
Bruce
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Aha!
Aha!
Bruce, Peter - thank so much you for your comments, they've helped me identify the problem. See attached photos.
I've removed the stand and there's a casting flaw on the bracket ledge, just where you don't want a casting flaw! I did notice it when I was spraying it black, but didn't realise it was critical. This explains why the bracket can rotate on the stud - there isn't enough of the ledge remaining to hold it firmly in position.
NOCshop shows they have 15 of these stands in stock, (not surprised given the price), so hopefully they can find a good one to rob for me!
Nick
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Ian Soady - stand
Can you show how you attached yours, please? You are right, the frames are very similar! Cheers
PS - I think the Navi one might need to be more forward, as the engine is much heavier - but it would be good to compare.
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Al Oz & I looked at this problem a few years ago and came to the conclusion that the bracket/lug angle was incorrect. The ones being sold then had an angle of 117°, while we felt that 125° would be more suitable. I wonder what angle Nicks bracket is?
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It's a while ago....
.... but as far as I can remember I just made a plate out of 3/16" mild steel which fitted over the footrest stud and (possibly) the rear frame section mounting. This might make it clearer.
I had previously used a similar stand for my ES2 (2nd pic) and that worked very well.
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Hi Nick,
On your first photo it appeared the the face on the inside of your stand bracket is plain. Strange if it is.
The original design had a ledge that was a tight fit against the lower frame.
Back of envelope sketch attached.
The distance between hole centre and top of ledge on bracket has to be just right to prevent the rotation you are seeing.
Can you confirm ledge feature missing?
Peter