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Hi i am thinking of running a 750 combat commando engine upright as an Atlas motor in a special frame can anyone tell me what problems i may face IE oil scavenging etc?,i am probably going to remove the oil/air separator from the back of the crankcase and let it breath through the timing cover also can someone confirm the tilt of the motor is it 15 degree's on a stock commando? cheers nick

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Your first step should be to have the crank re-balanced for rigid mounting, or the vibration will likely break your special frame. Lots of people have run Commando engines in featherbed frames, so upright shouldn't be a problem.

Colin.

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The '72 crankcase has a poor scavenge arrangement. While you have the cases apart for a re-balance do the Mick Hemmings fix for this. Details at http://www.oldbritts.com/n_c_case.htmlhttp://

I'm not convinced that the breather on the timing chest is a good idea although of course others may have differing opinions. One of the chaps on the American Commando forum did some computer modeling of the pressure dynamics of that set up and showed it to be rather ineffective in reducing crankcase pressure. You just end up wasting energy by pumping a large volume of gas back and forth through the small holes to the primary chest. This is also borne out by trials which respected engineer Jim Comstock conducted with a pressure transducer to measure crankcase pressure. His solution is a reed valve breather which can be bolted to the back of the '72 crankcase and gives negative crankcase pressure throughout most of the rev range. They are supplied by CNW and are rather expensive, but I managed to make one for under a tenner. I would also recommend looking at his primary case oil drain modification. Details on the American forum........

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in the past i had a commando engine re ballanced to Atlas spec and running mounted solid in a wideline featherbed frame i wont be doing that again the vibration was terrible! i will be keeping the isolastics,i will do the crankcase modification and look into the engine breating mods cheers nick

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I run an Atlas engine in a slimline 99 frame - the vibration levels are perfectly acceptable, even reducing once you reach 4,200 rpm. The Atlas balance factor should be right - of course other things could be to blame - a loose head steady for instance. Gordon.

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no the head steady was not loose on that bike it was the first thing i checked it had a heavy duty head steady with bolt holes reamed dead size to support the headstock properly,but looking back maybe the engine plates were to blame i made these out of stainless steel and mirror polished them i think they may have been too slippery to grip the engine? its a great thing hindsight! cheers nick

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I am recommissioning a Commando engined slimline 99 - don't remember the vibration being too bad - how can I tell if it has been rebalance when I get the barrels off? Steve

 


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