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Watched my Christmas Pressie last night. Mike Pemberton's excellent Dvd on dismantling the single. What immediately caught my ear on running the vid was the sound the the ES2 in the opening clip. Absolutely reminiscent of my ES2 back in the late 50's. It's that "sucking in" sound that you get when you shut the throttle to change up or close it on the overrun when slowing down. My current '55 ES2 doesn't quite make that sound. Is it valve timing? Ignition timing? Or what? I want that sound! Happy Christmas all. George

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Can it be that one had an air filter, not the other?

And a happy new year to all of you.

Mike

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A straight-through " Burgess" style silencer (muffler) helps and as you suggest, the ignition timing does make a difference. Back in the early 70's I had a Commando which created a very crisp loud snarl on the over-run, (beautiful) . I could always tell the points needed adjustment when this sound became less pronounced, indicating the ignition wasn't spot on....Les

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Yes, I think the bike back then did have a gauze filter and also a Burgess "straight though". Maybe the judicious insertion of a long drill down the current silencer might help??? George

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...Mike Pemberton built my ES2 motor. He got the valve timing spot on- and it makes that sound you mention, a sort of gasping snarl on the overrun and howl when you wring its neck, just before you change up;glorious. So, I would say it's valve timing.

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Just to mention the other factor regarding exhaust sound. The actual full length of the pipe (from exhaust valve to open end) will set the fundamental resonant frequency (note). When the engine is in effect being driven with the throttle closed, the mixture becomes very weak probably too weak to fire so really there is very little explosive output from the engine into the exhaust pipe, in fact there is possibly a slight puff out and then a short suck back in. Somehow this oscillating pumping action sets a resonance that sounds even louder than when the engine is under load and blowing large amounts of exhaust gas out in one direction (although we do get a vacuum created at the end of each exhaust stroke but the exhaust gas flows mostly in one direction IE: outwards). You can feel this powerful suction going on by placing your hand near the silencer end as you rev then let the throttle return quickly, you can feel a massive suction occurring as air is slurped back into the exhaust...I believe it's this "slurping back" in the exhaust that causes the snarl on the overrun. Different overall lengths will effect the tuning and probably the intensity of the resonance and obviously the less restriction in the system the more violent the reverberation (less frictional damping) ...Les

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i take your point, Adam, about valve timing. But as I understand it valve timing is either spot on or wrong as it is merely a matter of lining up the dots on the cogs. It can't be "slightly off".Fair point, Les. Comes back to the type silencer as well as valve timing. George

 



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