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850 Mk1A Side Stand pretty impossible to access

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Hi,

New to Norton's so just learning about the 73 850 I bought.

First of a few issues....

The side stand seems at the wrong angle.

Not enough is sticking out to select with your foot

The rubber bumper on the side stand is not touching the frame.

I couple of shots of what the correct parts and location would be really useful.

I'll attach a couple of images here.

 

 

Cheers

Eddie

 

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Does the stand flop up and down at the pivot? If so the bush and/or the hole in the stand is worn out. If not then the stand or the frame mount is bent. Replace/repair as needed. That rubber buffrer should stop on the side of the frame, which will give you the 'stick-out' you want.

Looks like you could treat yourself to a new spring too.

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Mine was the same. I tightened the bolts up, which were loose and it realigned it, so the bung now stops at the side of the frame. Have to say, it's still difficult to sweep it round in one movement from the saddle. I'm 6', but I could do with 2" longer legs! There's probably a knack to it.

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.. the bolt and pivot hole worn. Because the stand is so long and slop is magnified at the end.

I lengthened the tang so that I could reach it more easily from the saddle but agree there's a knack. I suppose I could be considered an old-timer but much prefer to mount & dismount with the prop stand down. Not the centre stand of course although I've seen people try to bump bikes off these when sat astride.

prop stand

 

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That is what I was taught 46 years ago by the 'old timers' on the RAC/ACU training scheme!

Putting the stand down before getting off is most likely the reason that the stands and brackets are no longer in alignment.

Nb: If you think the Commando had a poor stand location,  try a 1970's big Guzzi!

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... it should put any more stress on the pivot - it's just so that you don't have to hold the bike up with the risk of it toppling to the right hand side.

I'm quite happy using a rear stand where you have to lean the bike against your leg.

It's not only big Guzzis - the V50 I had had the awful "spring up" stand till I modified it. Much like AMC big singles although they had an alternative spring anchor point. A nightmare if you were on the wrong side of the bike and it sprang up if, like me, you're unable to get on from the right.

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Thanks guys. The parts diagram shows a bush so not sure if its required and goes inside the side stand. I'll maybe strip it off and check. Its a struggle getting it out when its on the main stand and i'm kneeing down. Extending the stand tang sounds like a good permanent solution. shame to wreck the shiny powder coating but needs must.

Cheers

Eddie

 

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Nice red.

The bush is required. It fits inside the end of the side stand and when the bolt is fully tightened it clamps the bush against the frame lug so it, the bolt and the frame do not move. The stand pivots around the bush. Wear occurs on the bush and in the eye at the end of the stand causing it to flop around. And to a lesser extent between the frame lug and the stand causing it swing to far forward.

Easy to replace the bush but, after many years of use and lack of maintenance, you'll probably find that the standard bush is no longer a good fit in the stand. In that case the stand should be bored out and an oversize bush made to fit. If it's really bad you can weld a bit of bar in the stand first and bore that to the standard bush.

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I had similar problems with the side stand, it went back to far under the silencer touching the frame so a hard job getting it out with my foot, and when extended it was to far I couldn’t reach it to pull it back, so I tightened the bolt, and put some weld spots on the stops so that it didn’t go so far out and when back was sticking out easily to operate, hope you can understand and it helps.

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Thanks and great idea Michael. I'll also check play in the bush.

Many thanks everyone for all your sound advice and help.

 

Great club!

Eddie

 

 

 

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