New spares

thanks for that Tony

Thanks Tony, it is the sort of update we could do with once in a while.

Featherbed Mod 50 engine plates should read Mod50/ES2 since they are the same.

Then there are the set of Pre Featherbed engine plates I donated (Not listed) as a template for 1957 and 1958 Model 50/ES2 and 19S only.

Keep up the good work.

Happy New Year.

Thanks Tony, that answers my email

Thanks Tony,

Gives us an insight to what is in the pipeline especially for us down here in the colonies

What I would be keen to see remade is the pressed tin primary chaincase (inner and outer). I know there are a number of variations but we are all struggling to seal 50 to 80 year old originals that are either distorted, rusty or damaged by loose chains (or all of the above)!!

regards, Ian

Thanks Tony, very helpful.

Dear Tony,

One of the chaps in our Branch claims to have a gangle-pin flange-nut for a 1932 Model 19H but he claims it is useless without the original washer

Colin.

Cheers good to know!

Hello Well I make exhaustC spannersto fit both Singles and twins as of 1/4 withworth wing nuts there easy to get hold of, the hardest parts to get hold thats never been reproduced by anyone and only made in-house by Norton at Bracebridge street works is the Norton Manxman 650cc silencers and downpipes these are 1.5/8ths full bore and the right-hand side is made to miss the rev-counter drive gearbox, and is shaped to follow the frame around to the bottom tube of the frame so it then lines up with the silencer witch as a welded triagual bracket on the silencer top side witch fixes to the pillon foot rest the left hand one has a 1 inch spacer for the fixing to the left-hand foot rest so the silencer dose not hit the back plate for the rear drum brake, these silencers have 3 inside layers and two baffels one inside the other and a mushroom cone end on the inside and welded seams down both sides only 23 inchs long and 5.1/2 inchs inside diamiter and made in 1mm thick steel heavy stuff and there are some 12 owners waiting, for a NOC dission if there going to have a small batch made , and the other small item thats not been made is the breather banjo for the inlet rocker coverI can give you all these part numberss if needed yours anna j

Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

Hello Well I make exhaustC spannersto fit both Singles and twins as of 1/4 withworth wing nuts there easy to get hold of, the hardest parts to get hold thats never been reproduced by anyone and only made in-house by Norton at Bracebridge street works is the Norton Manxman 650cc silencers and downpipes these are 1.5/8ths full bore and the right-hand side is made to miss the rev-counter drive gearbox, and is shaped to follow the frame around to the bottom tube of the frame so it then lines up with the silencer witch as a welded triagual bracket on the silencer top side witch fixes to the pillon foot rest the left hand one has a 1 inch spacer for the fixing to the left-hand foot rest so the silencer dose not hit the back plate for the rear drum brake, these silencers have 3 inside layers and two baffels one inside the other and a mushroom cone end on the inside and welded seams down both sides only 23 inchs long and 5.1/2 inchs inside diamiter and made in 1mm thick steel heavy stuff and there are some 12 owners waiting, for a NOC dission if there going to have a small batch made , and the other small item thats not been made is the breather banjo for the inlet rocker coverI can give you all these part numberss if needed yours anna j

Youâve never mentioned this requirement for exhaust silencers before Anna?ð

Has there ever been an aftermarket supply of silencers or pipes for the MAnxman?, I don't think so. Owners probably "made do" with 650ss/Atlas parts . Seems like exactly the situation where a club should step in, IF enough owners are prepared to place deposits for what will not be a cheap or big run.

Previously paul_webb wrote:

Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

Hello Well I make exhaustC spannersto fit both Singles and twins as of 1/4 withworth wing nuts there easy to get hold of, the hardest parts to get hold thats never been reproduced by anyone and only made in-house by Norton at Bracebridge street works is the Norton Manxman 650cc silencers and downpipes these are 1.5/8ths full bore and the right-hand side is made to miss the rev-counter drive gearbox, and is shaped to follow the frame around to the bottom tube of the frame so it then lines up with the silencer witch as a welded triagual bracket on the silencer top side witch fixes to the pillon foot rest the left hand one has a 1 inch spacer for the fixing to the left-hand foot rest so the silencer dose not hit the back plate for the rear drum brake, these silencers have 3 inside layers and two baffels one inside the other and a mushroom cone end on the inside and welded seams down both sides only 23 inchs long and 5.1/2 inchs inside diamiter and made in 1mm thick steel heavy stuff and there are some 12 owners waiting, for a NOC dission if there going to have a small batch made , and the other small item thats not been made is the breather banjo for the inlet rocker coverI can give you all these part numberss if needed yours anna j

Youâve never mentioned this requirement for exhaust silencers before Anna?ð

well you cannot of been around at that time !

Previously Tony Ripley wrote:

Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

... there are some 12 owners waiting, for a NOC dission...

yours anna j

Hi Anna J,

I may be wrong but I seem to remember the EC suggesting that YOU investigate potential manufacturers / suppliers for the Manxman parts and report back with details and prices. I presume you have not done this yet.

As you know considerably more than the spares procurement team on the vagaries of the Manxman then I think you are best placed to investigate.

Regards

Tony

Hello, Tony, I have given the NOC all the details on this well over 4 years ago now No one is even interested, yours Anna J

Previously robert_tuck wrote:

Has there ever been an aftermarket supply of silencers or pipes for the MAnxman?, I don't think so. Owners probably "made do" with 650ss/Atlas parts . Seems like exactly the situation where a club should step in, IF enough owners are prepared to place deposits for what will not be a cheap or big run.

Hello, Robert, the only thing here aftermarket pipes and silencer do not fit right, and the silencerare not as good As what the factory made the Manxman silencer are ten times better than anything made For the aftermarket and even sound better to I have had many remarks saying how good the Manxman silencer sound I have owners in the USA just waiting to get there hand on a set at any cost, So 650ss atlas part just do not cut the mustard I can say without no doubt that the Norton Manxman 650 was the best production Norton motorcycle ever and even the Commando cannot compete with it, it was in a class all of its own and was blowing off harleys in the first year of production and even the odd Vincent black shadow see Hogslayer the first drag racer Sunset motor did the engine was from a Norton Manxman 650 Hinze Kragler built the first race Norton 650 race bikes for the USA and won first time out engines were Manxman 650 The 650ss it a Manxman restyed for the UK riders but all Manxman motor are stamp marked 65 or 65c the small c was for custom parts fitted like my bike has riders foot rests that lift up and other small part fitted and it read this in the factory records there as never been another like these machnies this is Norton exclusivness very spiecal machinary and you do not make do with anything with machnies like these, only nice machnied parts only the very best will do to maintain the high standards if this was your bike only the best parts would do, so fit the best and forget the rest, yours Anna J

Sounds like a very small "Manxman" tail trying to wag a large NOC dog. How many Manxman owners are there in the club of over 4000 members?

David, if we went down that road all we would have would be Commando bits with a few Dommie and L/W twin parts. Almost where we are now.

Surely the role of the club is the supply of bits not available anywhere else, in order to keep all Norton's on the road.

Seems to me some progress at last is being made. Please don't knock it.

Previously david_evans wrote:

Sounds like a very small "Manxman" tail trying to wag a large NOC dog. How many Manxman owners are there in the club of over 4000 members?

Hello well up to now there are 12 owners in this country and one of them is Rodger At RGM he has one on his farmhouse kitchen island Norton Manxman on display Number 18-95125 in original nice unrestoredcondition he has never ridden the bike, it's his Norton show peace or Big Ornament, and then there are 43 more owners worldwide skip one owner that want a set of pipes and silencer AndersLarsson needs two sets of SwedenGeoff Whitesideneeds a set and many more in my email archive the maker is in Lincolnshireat Market Rasen Alldens exhaust he has seen the photo I sent him He cannot give a price Untill he made a pair then he can tell us a price for them or any others to be made Now Niel Shootsmith says he has a spare one silencers if he or someone can send me this as a patern, becuse my pair are on my bike and in top condion I would like to get welding splashes on them or scrach marks as I had them reChromed at 150 quid each the guy at Alldens Exhausts Dennis Tieze says he cannot do any chroming so they have be in bear steel and the buyer with have to get them chromed them selfs so the silencer would be a good start the pipes will have to come later on as I am next to retried and living on a small wage and cannot afford every thing as this will cost me 30quid in fuel to get to Market Raisen and back inculding Humber Bridge tolls, so if we then this year can make a move On this lets see how it pans out, yours Anna J

Previously david_evans wrote:

Sounds like a very small "Manxman" tail trying to wag a large NOC dog. How many Manxman owners are there in the club of over 4000 members?

Surely David the purpose/benefit of the club spares scheme is to help keep all Nortons on the road, if the club can use its collective buying power to have say half a dozen spares made that help keep a model on the road that would be a good thing surely?

Dan

Previously Dan Field wrote:

Previously david_evans wrote:

Sounds like a very small "Manxman" tail trying to wag a large NOC dog. How many Manxman owners are there in the club of over 4000 members?

Surely David the purpose/benefit of the club spares scheme is to help keep all Nortons on the road, if the club can use its collective buying power to have say half a dozen spares made that help keep a model on the road that would be a good thing surely?

Dan

hello these silencers I am talking about Have Never Been reproduced by any of the aftermarket crowed Nor as Norton or anyone else ever repoduct anything like them so there a one of a kind only ever fitted to the Norton manxman 650 and only made in house at bracebridge street by craftsmen and not easy to make, they have two baffels inside one inside the other one and a inside mushroom cone end and the cone ends are not easy to shape, its thick heavy metal My estamtes are about £300 to £400 each to make has there is alot of work to them I will have ago my self but its getting the right tooling and dollies i do have a large set of gas welding gear full size bottels and Mig And Tig and Arc Welding equipment first i have to make a some of dies out of five inch diamiter pipe the hard bit shaping the cone end without splitting the metal for this I need to make a jodder machnie its a machnical hammer electric motor with a cam plate on the end fitted to a slider plate and hammer end on a stand the we need a english wheel to smooth the cinks out, when you all the componants made then you can carefully weld them togetter and be extra care when welding the seems up down each side of the silencer then weld the cone end on , and I need a lot of insperation from some one beening with me as 99% of the time I am on my own and its 6 miles to the nearest town or shops all around me here is fields and trees and not much of human life forms And if I get this Tooling I can then make other Norton Parts for the Club like my exhaust rose c spanner that fits both Singles and twins yours anna j with five cats!!

Anna... 1/4inch wing nuts may well exist but not much use. The singles need 9/32 in brass but with a curved bottom face. Probably Norton's way to force owners to buy the manufacturer's spare parts!

Not to worry. The NOC spares nut can be drilled and tapped and ground a bit to fit.

(PS... Am I the only person whose software always changes nut into but? Does a squirrel eat a but?)

Previously David Cooper wrote:

Anna... 1/4inch wing nuts may well exist but not much use. The singles need 9/32 in brass but with a curved bottom face. Probably Norton's way to force owners to buy the manufacturer's spare parts!

Not to worry. The NOC spares nut can be drilled and tapped and ground a bit to fit.

(PS... Am I the only person whose software always changes nut into but? Does a squirrel eat a but?)

hello David well we can do brass 9/32seconds in Whitworth I do have all the taps and die nuts but the Squirrel will find them hardto eat! anything made in brass or alloys or steel I can make I do have a 1934 American Atlas 10 inch swinging over-bed Lathe with all tooling, now do have fun , yours anna j

Anna, you could always have a go at hydroforming! Dan

Finally found what I was looking for. The attachment shows was started in the early 1990's? to enable parts to be offered or requested. Is it time to reactivate a similar scheme for us to assist the Spares Scheme to determine what should be manufactured?