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Ethanol update

Just for those that are interested: The latest VMCC journal, arriving at the same time as the Roadholder gave a rare Ethanol update. It said that ESSO Supreme 97 Octane, except in Devon, Teeside and a few other places contains NO Ethanol. The oil company spokesman goes on to say that they have no intention of adding Ethanol as the law does not demand super unleaded contain Ethanol. (See below)

I note that Texaco 97 Super is also called Supreme, could it be the same stuff? Outside of SW England BP Ultimate is still the stuff but beware of supermarket petrol of any octane!

Other VMCC members might wish to add to my comments or I can copy the full script if required.

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Hi i have had a look at a list on the net of bikes and cars ethanol is suitable for no mention of Norton .i cant say ive ever had a leaflet from my garage concerning if the fuel they are selling me is suitable for my bike or car. i suppose they will tell us its up to us to ask or make sure its suitable for our use .perhaps that free chocolate bar they gave away with 5 liters of unleaded was a disclaimer so we cant take action against them . mind you they are knowingly selling a product that has the ability to erode rubber filler hoses, fuel pipes, petrol tank liners, ruin paint work ect that cant be right does the duty of care only last until ive drove off the forecourt. Baz

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Hi Baz, The government put it into law, a bit like road humps within the regulation size and likewise up to 5% Ethanol that they could not have a case brought against them. The Blair government did quite a bit of this sort of thing, such as take away your right of appeal when failing to declareSORN.

When 10% Ethanol comes in therefore, a warning notice will need to be placed on the pumps. That said, the law could be changed again to make 10% the limit where no notification needs to be given. (Or claims against vendors) I had a letter from Lib Dem Baroness Cramer who couldn't see a problem with Ethanol. I didn't bother to ask her how many Norton's she had!

There is also a greater fire hazard with Ethanol but for all of it the only answer is to rescind the Ed Miliband 2008 climate change Act.

All in it together? Not quite but almost!

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Previously Neil Wyatt wrote:

Hi Baz, The government put it into law, a bit like road humps within the regulation size and likewise up to 5% Ethanol that they could not have a case brought against them. The Blair government did quite a bit of this sort of thing, such as take away your right of appeal when failing to declareSORN.

When 10% Ethanol comes in therefore, a warning notice will need to be placed on the pumps. That said, the law could be changed again to make 10% the limit where no notification needs to be given. (Or claims against vendors) I had a letter from Lib Dem Baroness Cramer who couldn't see a problem with Ethanol. I didn't bother to ask her how many Norton's she had!

There is also a greater fire hazard with Ethanol but for all of it the only answer is to rescind the Ed Miliband 2008 climate change Act.

All in it together? Not quite but almost!

In the small print of my car instruction manual it states that using any fuel with an ethanol content of 15% or over will void any warrenty on the engine. I hope someone will have the decency to warn us when they stick a bit more in.

Mark

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Hi Mark,

Please remember that nobody told us when they started to add Ethanol and people couldn't understand the damage to their tanks and fuel systems. In this months RH there was talk of £650 replacement fastback tanks!

This was and remains my argument with the FBHVC, they failed to warn us in a stealth government move and then they failed to support E0 petrol, as a stake holder.

As The GreenLibLabCon becomes more desperate to meet their renewable energy target by 2020, 15% Ethanol remains a possibility while riding an old Norton becomes more of an impossibility!

 


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