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Unidentified TLS front brake

Submitted by george_young on Monday, 27 July, 2015 - 01:00
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Wow found how to add picture now for some text!!

I need assistance in identifying the TLS front brake fitted to my 1961 Dominator 88, on recent restoration I found one shoe was damaged.

difficult to locate replacement shoes, when you do not know what to ask for!!

Help on possible repair mewthod (and repairers) would be appreciated.

Regards George

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Submitted by john_rogers1 on Monday, 27 July, 2015 - 01:01

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Hello George

I have the same front brake on my Triton which I am working on .I cannot exactly help very much because my Triton does not have a frame no. and I am currently trying to get a cable for the front brake . I tend to think the brake is off a late dommie or atlas .My one needs a overhaul aswell . I will watch your replies so that I can identify the brake and get the cable . I have had the Triton since 1980 and not touched till 6 weeks ago

Submitted by george_young on Monday, 27 July, 2015 - 01:02

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Previously john_rogers1 wrote:

Hello George

I have the same front brake on my Triton which I am working on .I cannot exactly help very much because my Triton does not have a frame no. and I am currently trying to get a cable for the front brake . I tend to think the brake is off a late dommie or atlas .My one needs a overhaul aswell . I will watch your replies so that I can identify the brake and get the cable . I have had the Triton since 1980 and not touched till 6 weeks ago

John

Snap!! I last worked on my bike in early 80's when I acquired the brake, had the bike since 1970, can give you dimensions and pictures of the brake cable I have if it is of any help, not in the best of condition, and will get new one if possible.

George

Submitted by john_rogers1 on Monday, 27 July, 2015 - 01:04

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Hello George

I think the dimensions are 43inches long cable 37inches inner to give 6inches of play . the cable I have is alot shorter as I have had to cut it do to fraying

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John

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Submitted by graham_reeves on Monday, 27 July, 2015 - 01:05

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Hi,

The operating lever configuartion / design are the same as the John Tickle brake I have on my Dommie however the vents are different.

Graham

Submitted by george_young on Monday, 27 July, 2015 - 01:06

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Previously john_rogers1 wrote:

Hello George

I think the dimensions are 43inches long cable 37inches inner to give 6inches of play . the cable I have is alot shorter as I have had to cut it do to fraying

I have added a picture of the bike

John

John

Definately the same brake, I've just checked my brake cable, overall 381/2" long with outer at 341/2" giving only 4" of free playGeorge

Submitted by john_rogers1 on Monday, 27 July, 2015 - 01:07

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Thank you George

That size gives me something to work on . I will probably have to get the cable made up to those measurements . I think it is a dommie brake I have an alloy dunlop rim

Regards John

Submitted by robert_tuck on Tuesday, 28 July, 2015 - 01:00

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Would be nice if someone could come up with the info on converting the sls to tls. I'm sure lots of owners would be interested.

Submitted by george_young on Tuesday, 28 July, 2015 - 01:08

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Previously robert_tuck wrote:

Would be nice if someone could come up with the info on converting the sls to tls. I'm sure lots of owners would be interested.

Hi Robert, I don't think it is a modified standrard brake plate, I have a standard one and the casting marks inside are different, the air scoop and 2 air outlet holes are cast in with no evidence of welding.

George

Submitted by phil_hannam on Tuesday, 28 July, 2015 - 01:09

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This TLS brake plate is not the usual Commando type. Neither is it a John Tickle and I don't think it is an Eddie Dow conversion. The brake shoes are very strange. It is possible to convert a standard Dommie plate to TLS but this version has quite a meaty air scoop on the front. Most conversions have just a thin chunk of bent alloy plate.

Dave Degens (Dresda Man) used to do conversion of SLS to internal TLS. They were quite a work of art looking absolutely standard from the outside. The drawback being that they had to be adjusted before fitting which like magneto timing can take several attempts.

Submitted by terry_odlin on Tuesday, 28 July, 2015 - 01:10

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Previously Phil Hannam wrote:

This TLS brake plate is not the usual Commando type. Neither is it a John Tickle and I don't think it is an Eddie Dow conversion. The brake shoes are very strange. It is possible to convert a standard Dommie plate to TLS but this version has quite a meaty air scoop on the front. Most conversions have just a thin chunk of bent alloy plate.

Dave Degens (Dresda Man) used to do conversion of SLS to internal TLS. They were quite a work of art looking absolutely standard from the outside. The drawback being that they had to be adjusted before fitting which like magneto timing can take several attempts.

A firm called Marchant & Durward produceda 2ls brake plate in the 60's and from what my dodgy memory recalls, looked something like this.

Terry

Submitted by graham_reeves on Wednesday, 29 July, 2015 - 01:00

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The link below may be of interest although it refers mainly to rear sets. The cable measurements all correspond to those for my John Tickle brake which, if thesource is accurate,a single companyproduced for various suppliers (Marchant & Ward,Tickle, Dunstall etc).

http://www.accessnorton.com/british-made-marchant-durward-rearsets-t13729.html

'Same as the tickle set up. Company down Devon way made them for everyone, including Dunstall. Marchant & Durward made a lovely twin leading shoe brake.'

The rear sets shown in the pictures are the same as a new set of Dunstall Replicas I recently sourced from Don Prender (madass140) in the Philippines.

Graham

 



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