Still working on the project that won't die, the 71 Roadster that needs to be sold so I can play with my ES2.
Two questions:
One, with the cylinders on and torqued the pistons at TDC are proud of the cylinders by about 20 thou not including the head gasket. Is this okay?
Two, I've been unsuccessful despite numerous attempts to get the pushrods situated, leading me to believe I'm doing something wrong. I don't remember having this much trouble last time although that was 20 years ago. I've looked on line and the method I've seen is basically jiggling the rods around with the fingers until they fall into place. This certainly hasn't worked for me. Any advice?
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I remember having to get in…
I remember having to get in a position where I could peer through the head and hook the rods into position with a bit of bent wire,perhaps due to the tilted engine its not so easy and gravity is working against you on the inlets.
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Raise the head slightly
If you put some spacers between the head and the barrel you can look in through the exhaust rocker cover holes and use a long screwdriver or piece of stout wire to get the pushrods engaged with the rocker arms. Probably only need to raise it half an inch or so. If you put a blob of grease on the end of the pushrod before you start they will stay engaged once you have them in place.
Once the are in place remove spacers and fit the front centre head bolt and just nip it up. you can then turn the engine over while watching that the pushrods are located correctly.Then fit the other head bolts/nuts and tighten/torque the head down.
And yes the pistons do stick up slightly.
Ian
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Use the sleeve nuts
I found it easiest to slip the sleeve nuts or some square section wood under the head to use as spacers to hold the head 3/8" or so off the barrels. You can then use the bit of bent wire to locate the pushrods into the ball ends without the spring pressure getting in the way. Make sure the ball ends are engaged then carefully remove the nuts / wood and lower the head into position.
With the 750 you can apparently fit the head to the barrels off the bike then fit the whole lot although as my Commandos have been 850s I've never tried this. And of course you then have a lot of weight to manage when getting the pistons into the bores.
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Thanks guys. I didn't know…
Thanks guys. I didn't know about the access through the exhaust rocker cover. Giving this another go tonight.
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I always insert the push…
I always insert the push rods onto the rockers
Then twist a rubber band in a figure of 8 several times from the front holding down studs around the push rods to hold them in place
Then I lower the head until there is a gap just big enough to get my long thin nose pliers in
I pull the rubber band out snapping it then lower the head and tighten
If one of the rods should become misplaced just push it back in with a screwdriver, I have used this method many times
Cheers
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Heyup - That's a bit…
Heyup - That's a bit difficult if the engine is still fitted in the bike ?? Cheers, Howard
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Hello, No,I'am doing that…
Hello,
No,I'am doing that also with a rubber band
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Push rod locatio
I use a telescopic recovery tool , the kind with a small magnet (5mm dia -ish) on the tip. You can use this to manipulate the rods onto the rockers.via the exhaust valve aperture. A rubber band across the top of the head between the adjuster end of the rockers will raise the ends up and maintain pressure on the rods and stop them dropping out until you lower the head down.
best regards,
Chas
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Thanks for all the replies…
Thanks for all the replies. In the end I managed to do this lifting the front of the bike with a winch until the cylinders were perpendicular to the ground. This got the exhaust valve inspection holes up where I could see them clearly. It also eliminated the pushrods' tendency to tip forward.
After that I manipulated the tops of the rods with a piece of wire until I could push the rocker ball into the cup where it stayed, thanks to a dab of grease on the tops of the rods.
I realized later that I had probably had it assembled correctly but stopped because I felt the resistance of one of the rockers trying to compress one of the springs. I had incorrectly thought because I had removed the adjusters completely that there would be zero interference.
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No answer to question....
Allen's original question #1 was about the pistons sticking proud of the cylinder by 20 thou.
No one has an answer to this?
Mike
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See my previous answer..
As I stated previously, yes they do stand proud. More than 20 thou' too.
Ian
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