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I bought a Jubilee in bits 18 months ago. The bike had lots of parts missing e.g. seat, all of the tin ware, headlamp, mudguards, exhausts and downpipes, toolbox, etc. Even one piston was missing. As you can see from the 'Before' photo it was almost ready to be cannibalised for spares.

With a huge amount of advice from NOC members, lots of spares from NOC and more money paid on eBay than I would admit to my wife, the result is shown in the 'After' photo.

I realise this is not to the purists' taste but it works for me and tin ware is almost impossible to get now. I am a short rider so although I have a new pattern seat, I have put on a low, single seat for me to ride the bike.

I fitted a new loom, new switches, new electronic regulator/rectifier, new battery, a 6 volt electronic ignition and an H4 headlamp bulb so electrics and lights are good.

The engine was a complete strip down with new bearings and seals, new valve guides, new barrel liners and re-bore, new pistons and rings. I bought new wheel rims and spokes and re-built the wheels myself and added new tyres. Brakes were re-lined. New exhaust down pipes are in place but I did not like the look of the original exhaust style so I put some cones on. 

The most expensive engine items were pistons and rings. The most expensive bike parts were tank re-painting (excellent finish though) and re-chroming the original handlebars and brake plates at an eye watering £350; I only paid £400 for the bike!

I hope to buy a new kickstart as the old one is beyond re-chroming and have the brake pedal re-chromed.

I have yet to ride the bike so I am hoping the brakes work! 

I still don't like the forks so perhaps I can fit Navigator ones someday.

Dennis

 

 

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Hello Dennis,

That looks a really good job.  It's your bike and you can ignore any comments from the purists -they don't as a rule know what they are talking about.

Patrick

 

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Great looking special Dennis, reminds me of the Jubilee I built from bits as a teenagers in the 70s but far more professional and very tidy!   I just love the reverse cone megas - I bet it sounds superb!  

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Dennis’s picLooks good to me!  the jubilee is very noisy if the Megas don’t have good baffles, people used to put their hands over their ears as I climbed hills! Got fined for my trouble though ... mind you it was in 1977 and the Dunstal replicas I bought from armours were no better! 

If you want a standard seat, I’m tall and like to slide back a bit, they are available from Bantam john and leightons. 

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Dan,

Thanks for posting the photo, I couldn't work out how to do that.

I have a replica seat that I bought from Bantam John, what an experience that was!

If I ever sell the bike the new owner can fit the standard seat.

Luckily, Bantam John's shop is not too far from me and I bought the exhaust downpipes from him as well. His price for second hand tank badges was too rich for me but I bought a left and then a right one on eBay for reasonable money.

The exhaust cones were noisy but I bought and fitted extra baffle wrap to tone them down a bit and keep the neighbours happy.

Dennis

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No prob!

Posting pics is easy, just click on the picture of the photo above where you write and add the pic from your comp/phone.

if it would just stop raining and my cold clear up and I’d start building my Navi special. I haven’t made up my mind about colour but am thinking polychromatic blue frame and silver tank and oil tank. I had a pleasant surprise while looking through my stash of parts to see the tank I intend to use in NOS! 

Oh and be careful putting the bike on the stand with an Ali rear mudguard, it’s easy to distort it if you heave on the stays.

finally, I’d probably lower the front mudguard a little, but that’s personal choice! 

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Dan, now here's the thing about the front mudguard, I could not set the top mudguard stay any lower on the forks because I would then lose the adjustment on the front brake cable.  The adjuster, integral to the cable, attaches to the stay.

The cable is from NOC shop so I am assuming it is the correct one but there seems to be a lot of free cable beyond the adjuster. I am right on the limit now.  I have new brake shoes so I do not see where I can get more cable adjustment. The levers and bars are original.

Dennis

Right view of front wheel

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This is also a purist´s nightmare:

Norton Hondanator

Seat and rear hump still in the works

Story behind it: The owners car with the freshly overhauled original engine lying inside was stolen so he had to look for an alternative. He found this Honda 250 twin and squeezed it into the frame.

I bought the front mudguard, original kickstarter, gear shifter and some other parts from him for my Navigator.

 

Just a thought Dennis, which of course you may have already considered.  As you are using a none standard, much lower profile aluminium mudguard perhaps it is worth making a shorter aluminium or steel upper mounting stay which would lower the mudguard and allow you to lower the mounting clamps on the forks to give you plenty of adjustment on the brake cable.   It would be easy enough to drill a new hole to reposition the bracket for the lower mounting stay attachment to suit.

Nick

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Nick,

Good idea.

Also, I have another fork clamp holder for the brake cable that is a single band independent of the mudguard stay. I might be able to put this above the existing stay and lower the mudguard independently of the brake cable.

Dennis

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Hi  Dennis.

Your bike looks fab and you have put it together in a way that appeals to you. I am on with a Jubilee at the moment, I am really enjoying working on it. we need to encourage all tastes to the world of classic bikes, not just the it aint std brigade.

A youngster in days gone by created it, alloy guards cafe racer style headlight and brackets, metallic golden orange frame, megaphones, norton stickers on the tank rather than badges, high back light,etc.

I intend to keep it that sort of way, as that's what most younger lads did way back when. the Magazines of that time encouraged and featured specials and improvements,and everyone worked on them in sheds and back yards.

Evolution does not stand still for all, hence the Triton and others that have paved the way to the machines of today.

Kevin.

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Thanks Kevin, it would be good to see some photos of your bike, even if it is a work in progress,

Dennis

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But as said the only part that doesn't look quite right is the front mudguard. I'd suggest it's actually the wrong radius - probably for a 19" or even 21" wheel. Mudguards always look better if they're close to the tyre.

I really don't like the enormous gap that Gold Stars have between the back mudguard and the tyre. Totally unnecessary.

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I would have made different choices about the seat and silencers, but the important thing is that you have transformed a heap of bits into a working example of a model that although under-rated could have led to much more.

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has raised a rather intriguing train of thought in my mind. When insuring such bikes, how do you respond to the question, "Has it been modified in any way?" and what effect does it have on the eventual quotation?

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I have in fact lowered the mudguard and it looks much better. I had to use a separate attachment for the brake cable as the one integral with the mudguard bracket did not allow enough adjustment for the cable. Luckily, I had a chrome bracket that came with the bike (one of the few things that did!). 

As to: "Has it been modified in any way?" The DVLA inspector (actually SGS) was happy that the bike is original (matching engine and frame numbers, no engine mods, etc.). And I will declare to my insurers that it is original given that changing the seat, mudguards etc., does not in my mind affect the originality of the overall bike.

Dennis

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Not the best of photos but hopefully you can see that the front mudguard is much closer to the tyre now. For some reason the photo has been rotated compared to the original when I uploaded it.

Dennis

Front wheel

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Hi Dennis.

Will take some pics when I can and post them.

Wonder how many people with Goldstars many with Akront rims the odd Mikuni and loads of stainless bits get on if that is modified. They say there are more Gold stars and Rocket Goldstars registered than BSA ever built. Makes you wonder if the ones that know that declare that to the insurance people, can't see it at the money they go for, oh well.

I have quite a few brit bikes with period parts, my BSA B40 trials is deemed to be ok, as is my B25 with yamaha period  alloys.  In my family we've had Tricatis Tritons, BSA sunbeam scooter engines in Bantam frames, never had any probs. I am on a special 2T at the moment.

Tell you what does worry me, people using poor grade soft stainless for stressed parts, sometimes it's better to be safe than shiney.

will see if I can post a few pics of some of my mentioned bikes.

Kevin

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Nothing wrong with specials, nice bikes, I like the round barrel victor, although to my eye the rear mudguard needs a bit of adjustment! ;-)

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And I thought my garage was 'busy'!

Dennis

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I could have been a purist if a had a museum. My bikes are to be ridden, so they have some deviations from original. Neither do I think that period mods are out of place. As long as you don't destroy original part, making it impossible to return it to original. What you have done from a heap of bits is truely impressing.

 


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