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I've acquired a 1957 ES2 from that well known auction website and will be off to collect it shortlysmiley I'm faced with either splashing out on a towbar/trailer setup OR riding it the 170 odd miles home! Riding appeals. The current owner assures me that it is a going concern....

Any tips to make my life easier. Do I need to use a fuel additive? What tools should I take?

In the long run, what should I look to include in my toolkit - its currently all metric and AF.

Thanks in anticipation.

Chaz

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Don't do it unless you get insurance with breakdown cover, take a mobile and start out early before it gets dark.

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I generally aim to fill up with the premium unleaded if its available, but if not just put what they have in with or without ethanol (cue the ethanol debate) and don't use any aditives.

Check the oil levelbefore you set off, over that kind of distance low oil could do some serious damage.

As for a tool kit:

-a set of whitworth spanners (assuming the bike is whitworth as it should be)

-an adjustable spanner

-plug spanner and spare plug

-pliers

-cable ties

Whenever I'm working on a bike I look at the tools I am using for a joband think'is this something I might haveto have to do on the side of the road'. If the answer is yes carry the tools! It depends how far you are likely to be going on the bike. I take a much bigger tool kit if I'm off to france for a weekthan if I'm going for a 30 mile local ride!

Most important thing to carry is your AA membership card and a mobile phone, then if it really comes to it you can get home.

Enjoy the bike, the ES2 is a great thing to ride

Andy

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Hi.

If you're unsure as to the bike's reliability or roadworthiness why not hire a van and take a mate with youto help load it? If you're not an AA member (or similar) getting it home via a breakdown service, if it does breakdown, will cost a mint.

It's also a bloody good idea to have a good look a the bike at home where you've got time to check it - one man's classic is another's old nail!

As far as fuel goes, I run my 60 ES2 (owned for 36 years)on ordinary unleaded with no problems - Andy is right - they are great fun to ride.

Ian.

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An adjustable spanner to tighten up things ,if loose, a set of magneto spanners to adjust the points, tools to clear a blocked carb jet or filter. A half litre of 40 oil to use in the primary case ,gearbox or motor. I would check all three levels before starting the trip. I would also go round the bike to check wheel nuts ,spokes,yoke clamps ,handlebar fixings,control cables,tyres,chain tension etc. Sort of mini MOT. Its your life!!!.

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If you do ride it...warm up a bit to make sure that a)oil is returning to the tank, b)the tank is reasonably full after the oil in the sump has all gone back. It is bound to have wet sumped if it's not been used.
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Last time I did that my wife gave me a lift there on her Yamaha and she ended up towing me the last 20 miles home... Buying a bike from a retired engineer who is a member of the owners club is no guarantee you haven't bought a pup. And it should have been so much safer than buying through a well known auction house. Check it over very carefully.

P.S. Rode same pup to a hospital appointment today so it's fine now but it took a lot of sorting.

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Thanks to all who have contributed. Hope to get to know you better as ownership progresses. Current plan is either to take a van or get a Motorcycle Transporter to pick it up, although I'd like to meet the vendor. Just ordered some Whitworth spanners and sockets. When the rain stops I'll make a start on clearing out the shed!

Chaz

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Well, I've got it home. Riding on to the ferry and the 7 miles home wasn't too traumatic apart from the fact that it wouldn't tick over. Looks pretty much "as described", starts easily enough, steers and stops. The finish is best described as "workmanlike" and its clear there are a few non-standard parts aboard. As a first step, can anyone point me in the direction of a good set of images for a 1957 ES2.

Cheers

Chaz

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I just typed in Norton Model 50 1957 (very littler difference to ES2) and then clicked on images and lots came up of what your original bike should look like.

If you are taking the bike apart in the very near future, PLEASE can you lend your engine plates to club spares, so they can copy those instead of buying Fair Spares!

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Previously neil_wyatt wrote:

I just typed in Norton Model 50 1957 (very littler difference to ES2) and then clicked on images and lots came up of what your original bike should look like.

If you are taking the bike apart in the very near future, PLEASE can you lend your engine plates to club spares, so they can copy those instead of buying Fair Spares!

I'll probably have the bike to pieces this winter, I'm away for the next month or so then working until early September - I'd quite like to ride it then! Happy to lend bits to the Club for the greater good in due course!

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Previously neil_wyatt wrote:

I just typed in Norton Model 50 1957 (very littler difference to ES2) and then clicked on images and lots came up of what your original bike should look like.

If you are taking the bike apart in the very near future, PLEASE can you lend your engine plates to club spares, so they can copy those instead of buying Fair Spares.

Hi Neil,

I've just found these in the shed in a box labels Model 50. All my bikes are featherbed but are they what you are looking for? I'm not a pre featherbed expert so they could be off anything but the footrests are Norton. Let me know if they are of use to you.

Cheers

Mark

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Thank you Mark, for looking out for me, what the club should be about...(Not just looking out for me but putting old Norton's back on the road and keeping them there)

The footrests and small seration are Norton but I'm not sure about the two, what look like front engine plates. This is the problem when you are looking for parts you have never had.

I did have a 19Sbut sold it in 1975 and can't remember what any of the plates looked like.

Perhaps someone can identify them, (Charles?) to see if they are for the 57/58 singles. I think the rear plates will be harder to find because of the AMC gearbox. Many thanks.

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Apologies for the late replysad the engine plates aren't the front ones from a single (1957) and I dont think they are from the rear of the engine either although its difficult to tell without pulling bits off the bike!

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hi neil

what type of frame do you want engine plates for i have a pair of featherbed rear plates if its pre f/bed they are proberley the same as a plunger frame i think i have a set of these

regards roger

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Hi Roger,

Many thanks for looking out for me.

The 57 & 58 singles, I believe used a Matchless frame.

The Gear boxes were AMC, as across the Norton range by 1957.

Therefore the rear plates will suit the AMC box and not the laydown type.

Tnank you so much for looking,

Neil.

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I've just discovered that there should be two petrol taps on my ES2 tank - I only have one which means that I run out of petrol embarrasingly regularlyblush Looking at the Parts List I see two taps, a long and a short pipe and a T piece which would make sense. Can anyone post a picture of this arrangement and point me in the direction of suitable parts.

Cheers

Chaz

 


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