JPN Panels

Interpols also had the frame id plate there...

Airtech make copies of the John Player replica : https://airtech-streamlining.com/vintage-fairings-seats-fenders-parts/NortonJPS.htm

Had the original moulds as I remember.  I have a second set for my machine but not for sale for the same reason. They also used to do decal kit.

I had replacement screen from Mick Hemmings so should still be available.   As I remember it needs:

Two x Five inch headlamps, (clocks switches and warning lamps all as per headlamp shell models).

One piece fairing

Headstock bracket (I have one for you if needed), 

Crudely extended roadster tank,

Aluminium lowers stays ( these may take some finding).

Tank cover, filler cap cover, hump tail and seat.

Pair of mid century chrome car mirrors. 

BlackChrome bean can exhaust , 

High output Alternator.

Clip on handlebars

7/8” straight piece of handlebar to fit in top yoke for  choke lever mounting.

Only tuning ingredient is a 19T engine sprocket to make it feel like it could go….!

I think that’s about it. Others may have more info.

It’s not the most practical ride but turns a few heads. 2007 mine was the only one on the IoM for the centenary celebrations. There are a couple about but not popular. 

Jon

Andover Norton seem to have most of what you need to make a JPN — if you have the money …

https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/shop-drawings/6

If it is to be actually ridden any distance, then clip ons with the JPN bodywork are not for everyone....!

    I’ve done it...

... is my first fail!

 The Clip-ons are close to the fairing sides and deep set, meaning you have to lift your hand out of the "pocket" if you want to adjust anything.  The standard mirrors are next to useless by position and vibration.  I have a "Fisheye" mirror on the lower part of the tank cover to see that I don't  have unexpected company when planning an overtake.

 It was more of a "Wanabee" racer than a serious road burner; a look that appealed to the   Marketing personnel...   ... more so than the public.  Doesn't stop me loving it!

Jon

I have also toyed with the idea of creating a JPN replica, as my Mk3 reconstruction is a blank canvas if the Interpol project cannot proceed due to lack of decent fairing parts.  However, as much a like the JPN appearance, being 6’ 2”, I have always wondered whether the riding position would just too cramped?

I once had new pearl white R100RS, as well as a ‘68 T120 with Laverda adjustable dropped bars,  and rearsets and Rickman half race fairing, and both were fine, so maybe a JPN would not be an issue?

The R100RS, though with bars not as buried in the fairing as the JPN, could cause the odd issue. Once, when filtering on a side road leading onto Oxford Street in London just before Christmas’83, an oncoming car forced me to try and sneak in behind a beige Allegro. As I rolled forward and turned the bars, the brake lever proximity to the fairing prevented my fingers getting to brake lever in time to stop my front wheel nudging the Allegro’s black rubber bumper.  Oops, I thought, but no harm done.  Then both doors of the Allegro opened and out stepped two uniformed policemen.  I had to park the bike on the pavement, take my helmet off and produce my documents (which I always used to carry) to one policeman while the other was on his knees running his hand along the bumper.  From their cold attitude is seemed clear that I was going to be reported for something. Then I told them that my driving licence London address was my ‘home’ address, but I was stationed at RAF Cottesmore (near Oakham). On hearing this, the grumpy officious policeman neatly refolded all my docs, gave them back and said that in view of my service connection, that would be the end of the matter.  They got back into their Allegro and drove off - phew! Perhaps it helped that it was not so long after a certain 1982 war, who knows, but I wasn’t complaining…..

I had a JPN fairing in yellow (Gus Kuhn copy) on my 750 in the late '70s, together with a production racer tank and modified solo seat from a TZ (or something similar). I'm 6'3" and never had any complaint about the riding position or reaching/operating the bars/controls inside the faring, either scooting thru London traffic or on 200 mile trips to N Wales. But I was in my 20s...

Do remember a couple of issues: 1) I cut away a bit of the dashboard to clear the master cylinder reservoir; 2) it buzzed like crazy at low revs/idle. The tank cover plus some redesigned fairing brackets might sort out the buzzing.

In 1981 I had a test ride on a BMW R100RS (S&S Motors, Castletown). What a sit up and beg, old man's bike. So I bought a Ducati MHR instead - you get the idea of what I was into. Now I am that old man, and a couple of years ago bought an '81 R100RS - brilliant bike and that fairing is superb. But the riding position is not remotely similar to the JPN and the reach to the bars is much further down and inside the fairing on the JPN. You might find the back of the wrists catch on the fairing, depending on how straight you hold your arms. I've never, touch wood, had any issue with the fairings on either bike affecting operation of the controls.

I have a black, presumably Kuhn copy, fairing that has had the sides cut away to give clearance for bars/hands. Quite neatly done. Had an idea I might fill it back in but never got around to it. Let me know it it's of interest. Also have an Interpol fairing that I don't suppose I'll ever use now I have the BMW.

During a visit to the new Norton factory, we were invited to look over the rest of the collection of bikes that the factory purchased from Ian Loram. These were not on show at the time as only a few were displayed in the factorys foyer. Having an interest in commandos i went to have a look at the two commandos in the collection. One was a fully equipped Interpol and the other a JPN, The JPN I seem to remember had a K reg plate (or was it M reg?) either way it struck me as not from the correct years of JPN manufacture  

200 made late 73 to 74. Mine is N reg,  late 74 early 75.  If it was K it was either a fake or re-registered...

Looking at the machines on display, many of them were not "as original" build, and not at best finish.

Jon 

Wiring loom would show a difference.  It's a three segment loom on JPN as it deals with the twin headlamps and uprated alternator. Middle section is pretty standard and tail section is slightly  longer spur for stop and tail in the hump. 

Look for marks on the headstock where the fairing support was clamped on (that's why the vin plate is under the seat), also on the two down tubes in front of engine that was a splay bar to keep the fairing stiff.  This may well be identical on the  IPL but I know nothing of them (other than they were difficult to pass.... ;--)  

Side cover on left of IPL,  was  there a  conversation on here about a bracket attached to the inside and a small hole for a switch or plug.  If there is plenty of  redundant wiring its probably  IPL.

Zeners in the hanger plates on JPN maybe different solution for an IPL?

JPN:

• Ignition on left side bracket below carbs, and two pin power socket. 
• Often first registered in Scotland as that is where they were assembled. 
• Choke cable is short as its lever was  at the headstock, not up the handlebar. 
• Lower ratio front sprocket (19T) for improved acceleration.
• Can't think where else to look, it was only sheep in big sheep clothing... 

Chronometric speedos were fitted to the Interpol so if you have a regular speedo it would be a replacement.

But, as has been pointed out, they're all standard Commandos with some different clothes. You can build it anyway you want it, no need to reference its past. You could move the frame id plate to the headstock and leave it unfaired or go JPN or PR or Interpol. Interpols make great tourers by the way.

I had intended to say I have some parts left over from the two bikes in the photo.

original fairing bracket ( front) original number plate mount bracket, two or 3 screens, two headlights, fairing decals from the build of the not so original Mk3 JPN and lots of photos of the original bike.

the parts are on way from Australia with my other stuff, we are returning to UK after 16 years in Australia.

Now that's just greedy...

Great looking bikes; still got the “Avon” badge in front of nacelle.  Some nice improvements on the Mk3.

Jon

https://www.isaydingdong.co.uk/ourshop/prod_6840500-Avon-Mitchenall-Bros-Ltd-Sticker-4.html

Unfortunately it’s not the only non standard part on my machine.   

Cheers

Jon