Silencer Clearance 1960 Dominator

The ends of your silencers do appear to be splayed out. The cigar type silencers fit closer to the frame which would give better ground clearance. The fixings look odd compared to the cigar type?

A couple of things to consider with your lean angle experiment.
The weight of the rider (& pillion ?) will compress the rear suspension.
Cornering forces will compress the rear suspension.
Both these will contribute significantly to the silencer getting closer to scraping the tarmac.

Regards,
Duncan.

I think your silencer brackets are back to front.
On my 650 they came out over the silencers.  This would move the silencers inwards by around 1/2" or so.
As to grounding,  its something always in the back of my mind, but so far it's the stand tang that has ground out first and I do enjoy 'making good progress' when riding.
Never measured the 'static' lean angle' but I'll give it a try next time I'm in the garage.

Regards, George 

George is right ,the pattern brackets look installed back to front.  Non orriginal (pattern ) silencers are usually made with the mounts too far back which brings the front of the silencer too close to the frame , and a dent in the silencer fixes this !. Big Hammer!. The Orriginal pipe was angled slightly up at rear , pattern pipes tend to run horizontally but  could  also have a slight kick up under the box which raises the silencers at the rear. Study some early period road tests for the line . My old  RGM siamese pipes kick up a bit and solved the issue 

On my 1960 Dominator the exhaustbracket is bolted directly to the exhaust. On your picture there seems to be an extra welded-on kind of bracket. 

I put dents in the back of the pattern  silencers as noted. they are not visible and allow the silencers to sit closer .  You may be able to get the pipes bent up slightly from the front curve (a gradual bend. ) You may have to slot or drill and weld the silencer brackets to raise the silencers . the pattern brackets you have are much lighter (flimsier?) than the orriginals which are about 1/8" thick. Side stand usually grounds first . You could make new brackets that allow the silencers to sit further back if pipe is long enough . My memory from 1960 is that the wheel Axle only just clears the silencer when slid out. Very few bikes now have the orriginal nice fully  curved front pipes, (one size with bends and straight sections  now fits all ), there were different pipes for 88 and  99  due to height change of the barrel.

My silencers come up almost to the pillion footrests. Your brackets look rather long. My Dominator silencer brackets are the factory originals so should be correct.
You really should have enough clearance to corner in a brisk fashion should the mood take you. I doubt that's the case with yours at the moment. 

In Roadholder 458 page 15 you will see my red DL with the correct line of silencer . The siamese pipes do no have the best line but do kick up the silencer .  Images can be viewed on line on this site. 

This shows the correct clearance etc.  

Hi Gordon, is that your much modified 650 deluxe ?, now an Atlas. If so the pipes and silencers are diferent to the 60  99 !!. 

Hi Andrew,

The cigar shaped silencers were also fitted to the lightweight range. 
The oval section silencers too. 

The header pipe never changed. 

To keep things looking straight the different silencer details become obvious. 

The earlier oval section silencers have tapped mounting holes at a slope to each other. On the lightweight this means a cranked mounting bracket can be used without being handed, and securing to pillion footrest mount. 

The later cigar section silencers have tapped mounting holes above each other. To pick up on the same exhaust pipe and and pillion mounts, different cranked brackets are required. These are handed, and have different crank depth to oval silencer brackets. 

This often confounds owners who go through hoops trying to fit the silencers without the correct bracket, or even reversing the crank and throwing the silencers outwards. 

The different mounts of cigar/oval have not been mentioned above, but are key to good silencer alignment. 

Peter 
 

From above

OOF !!, thats one very posh 99. I can see why you are focused on getting it right. Coens Dommy has some pipes with the proper curve from the engine, probably orriginals. Andrew,your footrests appear very low (which may be needed if you are tall)  and will inhibit cornering and ease of changing gear as it effectively shortens the gear lever and makes it harder if you have big feet !.  I put up with high rests and fit 3" raised bars to help the erganomics .Silencers appear about 3" low at wheel axle line.

I managed to trace the original 88 engine that was delivered in 1960. I don't know whether the popes are original but I presume they are.