Superblend end play in Dominator

Hi Eugene sorry to be the first to answer you but don't let that stop anyone else from replying.

First of all, the size width of the superblends is exactly the same so they will suit the older 99 engine. I have 2x HIGH CAP bearings in my M7 engine as proof. The bearings are your choice so don't worry.

2xthings come to mind:

1) Have you made absolutely sure the cam shaft end is sitting correctly in the breather disc's slots?

2) You must have one of the bearings not fully home although you say you are pretty sure of this. As a check the inner faces of the outer bearing race should just be just very slightly proud of the inner crankcase surface. You will need to check VERY carefull by try to slide a 1 thou feeler gauge behind the outer races or inner races to see if there is a gap.

Usually without ANY shim/s (did you fit any?) you should have a minimum of around 5-6 thou as an average

It does seem strange that although it tightens up you can still knock the halves together for the last 1/8 bearing width, but is this the crankcase edges causing it! The crank should spin easily with no effort it, itshould not be tight at all.

ANY more suggestions members please.

Les

Hi Eugene. it doesn't sound so bad know and if you can get some end play all is well. Yes, it won't movethat freely and the way you are measuring it is OK. The aim, in theory is to get the crankshaftexactly in line centrally and have therfore have the conrods exactly central to the bores. In my old M7 manual it says there should be one shim between the drive side crank cheek and the bearing inner and there should be exactly 1/2" from the actual crankcase joint (not it's spigot) to the upper side of the flywheel (This would be when the engine is lying on it's left side)* it then says a rule will be sufficiently accurate!! So when we are talking about thousands of an inch, it was basically saying it does not matter that much in my interpretation! I'm sure if the engine has it's original crankshaft all will be fine but you can check just in case, making sure the conrods are exactly central to the bore position. The end float measurement seems to vary wildly depending on where you read it. (See the NOC feature under technical#) I would aim for around5-8 thou (original spec) ....(some say 10-30!)#remembering this measurement will increase anyway when the engine heats up as the alloy cases expand quite a bit compared to the crankshaft, Also the oil pump worm gear side thrust will pull over thecrankshaft to the right hand side if you fit 2x superblends, as the engine was designed, originally,to be located positively by a ball bearing on the timing side.

Instead of G clamps, Eugene, I bought a pack of M6 coach bolts 4" long & complete with flat square nuts (dead cheap). I used these to assemble the crankcases on the bench. When you assemble the cases you want all the fixing holes pulled up tight and without the engine plates and their bolts, you cannot just rely on the other couple of screws and bolts to fully compress the case joint as it would be when mounted in situ on the bike, you need all the holes pulled up. They are easy to spin up tight with their large screw driver slots and were perfect for the job. You can remove them easily later when you put the motor in the frame and retighten properly.

You must have your own preference for jointing goo, but once you have used WELLSEAL, all the others seem rubish. You can paintthefluid very neatlyon with a small artists brush as it is so fluid and leave both sides to dry for at least 10 minutes or more to go very tacky, it's great. The paintbrushes wash out in petrol quite well.

* The 99flywheel the same width as the 500's

#http://www.nortonownersclub.org/support/technical-support-commando/commando-main-bearings-service-releases/?searchterm=main bearings

Hope the rest of the job goes well.

Les

Hi Eugene

Just a quick note to try and help.

First of all you are wasting your time with g clamps you need to bolt the carnkcases firmly together.

You need 4 off 3/8 diameter bolts with nuts (Not 10mm) they are to big. You wll see where they need to fit.

Make sure the bearings are seated properly and also the inner races are fully onto the crankshaft the slightest burr etc will upset all yor settings.

The only really accurate way of checking end float is with a dial gauge poitioned at the end of the crank.

This needs to be mounted firmly to the engine and not independant of it.

Tapping the crank with a plastic hammer is Ok but to be honnest if everything is clean and fitted correctly then it should move easily.

I dont know how good your crankcases are but they need to be burr free and very clean if you are to acheive what you want.

Hope that helps

Hello again Eugene. Question: You must have tried the drive side bearing (on crank)separatelyinto its case bearing ONLY and then tried the timing side bearing fitted to the crank for the right hand side likewise? If so, are they tightening up in these individual fitments? OR is it just when you fit the two halves together you get this 1/8" resistance?

It seems that you are saying that this is happening as at all times before assembly and ifso, itwould seem that the cases are compressing the outer bearing races to reduce their diameter. However,I really don't think that IS happening though, as the bearing race would be compressed uniformly (if at alland only microns if it did)and it would not be the last 1/8â that was tight, it would be tight all the way.

The rollers are slightly barrel shaped but so is the outerbearing track, and as you have seen, theyspin freely in the hand when the bearing is fully together. By the way, I would fit the inner the same way round as you got it, and that is with the bearing's wording scribed on the faces, both showing on the same side.

It could be that as the rollers are barrel shaped, the axial movement of sliding the inner is causing the rollers to splay outwards against the movement of the inner race being pushed in. The rollers would then act as wedges against the movement. You have to remember that when pushing the bearing together in the hand, it can find its own alignment whereas when they are on the crankshafts you are always going to be somewhat out of line and thus create the extra friction to cause this wedging effect as you push them in.

So lubricate with thin oil and rotate the bearing at the same time when you bring the two components together and also when assembling the two case halves together.

Les

Eugene

I would be checking out the housing that the outer race of the bearing has beenfitted into. I have come across engines wherean owner has hammered the outer into its housing without warming up the cases enough. This has led to small slivers of metal being pulled off the housing and then ending up either under the bearing outershoulder or behind its outside face.

This either causes the bearing outer race to sit crooked in the housing or squeezes it slighly from one side. Both of the aforementioned will make getting the crankshaft into the housings difficult as in essence the roller is trying to enter an oval shaped rather than circular outer race.

You often get a similar problem if one of the crankcases has been heavily damaged and repaired with serious welding or even replaced. The main bearing housings and camshafts bushes just never seem to line up.

Of interest - All the Norton Heavy Twins up to 1971 had a ball bearing in the Timing side. It made the bottom end a lot easier to put together. Even Paul Dunstall used such bearings in his engines though he did recommend fitting the higher capacity 10 or 11 ball versions. MJBL 30 is the number to seek out. Mick Hemmings used to stock them and may still do so. I fittied all my Atlas engines with one suprblend and one uprated ball.

The late John hudson said that fitting Superblends to any engine below 650cc was a waste of time and effort because too oftenyoulost more than you gained. He claimed that, as a rule, owners who fitted these bearings also tended to uprate their oil pumps to higher capacity or double speed or both. The consequences being that the oilpressure release valve was always open, which in turn flooded the timing chest. Much of the surplus oil then draining down through the main bearing and giving it a real hard day. A bit like stiring a wet cement mix with a spoon.

He also confirmed that the early twins were set up with 8 to 10 thou of crankshaft endfloat as the norm. When Commandos arrived on the scene this became 20 thou at the factory. John said that on many occasions he discovered up to 40thou in engines herepaired but found no signs ofthis causing a problem. Perhaps the conrods were made of rubber!!!

Congratulations Skip, I'm extremely pleased for you. When you said you worked better under pressure you weren't kidding...Wow, one minute you had the engine in pieces on the bench pulling out the main bearing races time and time again and now the whole bike is one piece and running around in less than a week later. Very well done especially as you have had to find and buy so many parts for it. I'm sure if you can take sometime off from riding it, a few photos (or lots) put onto this site would be enjoyed by many, not least by myself. MyM7 is at least a year away from completion due to other commitments I am forced to put above the Nortonin my priority list. I bet your rebuild story would make an enjoyable read too, it's all thethings thatwent wrong,in a fun way, thatwe all seem to enjoy most. Ho ho.

ATB

Les

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Hello everyone,

I am fitting a pair of superblend main bearings into a '57 Dominator 600cc model 99 engine. I noticed before fitting the outer races into the crankcases, that the inner races were a nice snug fit into the outer races, as expected. After heating the crankcase halves, the outer races dropped right into place with no problems. Then I warmed up the inner races and slid them right onto the crankshaft with no problem (I also refrigerated the crankshaft first to shrink it. Now when I fit the crankshaft into the bearings which are fitted into the crankshaft halves, the inner races go in about 7/8 of the way in with relative ease, but I need to gently tap the races in the rest of the way with light pressure from a deadblow mallet. This does not seem right to me. I also clamped together the crankcase halves to check end play, but you cant move the crank side to side unless you tap it with the mallet (soft plastic, so as not to damage the ends of the crank). I wonder, if theinterference fit of the outer races in the crank halve shrunk the race slightly? I know a number of people have used superblends in the early dommi engines before, is my problem unique? I know some people dont think the superblends are necessary in the early engines, which may be correct, but I want them in my engine & know there are others who have fiitted them & am trying to discover what the problem is, not argue the case of weather or not they arenecessaryon the pre 1972 twins.

Thank you in advance! Hello Eugene Well Having read you thred I think You Are Making you self a lot of Hard Work for Nothing As You Could Of Fit R&M Mj30 right side of crank and left hand side of crank 3MRJA30 bronze cage roller bearing From Vintage Bearings And I Have a Spare Set These Bearing Where Fit Too The 650 And &50 Atlas So They would be more than adequate from you machine ? and with out all this fuss ?

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Hello everyone,

I am fitting a pair of superblend main bearings into a '57 Dominator 600cc model 99 engine. I noticed before fitting the outer races into the crankcases, that the inner races were a nice snug fit into the outer races, as expected. After heating the crankcase halves, the outer races dropped right into place with no problems. Then I warmed up the inner races and slid them right onto the crankshaft with no problem (I also refrigerated the crankshaft first to shrink it. Now when I fit the crankshaft into the bearings which are fitted into the crankshaft halves, the inner races go in about 7/8 of the way in with relative ease, but I need to gently tap the races in the rest of the way with light pressure from a deadblow mallet. This does not seem right to me. I also clamped together the crankcase halves to check end play, but you cant move the crank side to side unless you tap it with the mallet (soft plastic, so as not to damage the ends of the crank). I wonder, if theinterference fit of the outer races in the crank halve shrunk the race slightly? I know a number of people have used superblends in the early dommi engines before, is my problem unique? I know some people dont think the superblends are necessary in the early engines, which may be correct, but I want them in my engine & know there are others who have fiitted them & am trying to discover what the problem is, not argue the case of weather or not they arenecessaryon the pre 1972 twins.

Thank you in advance! Hello Eugene Well Having read your thred I think You Are Making you self a lot of Hard Work for Nothing As You Could Of Fit R&M MJ30 right side of crank and left hand side of crank 3MRJA30 bronze cage roller bearing From Vintage Bearings And I Have a Spare Set These Bearing Where Fit Too The 650 And &50 Atlas So They would be more than adequate from you machine ? and with out all this fuss ?

Previously wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am fitting a pair of superblend main bearings into a '57 Dominator 600cc model 99 engine. I noticed before fitting the outer races into the crankcases, that the inner races were a nice snug fit into the outer races, as expected. After heating the crankcase halves, the outer races dropped right into place with no problems. Then I warmed up the inner races and slid them right onto the crankshaft with no problem (I also refrigerated the crankshaft first to shrink it. Now when I fit the crankshaft into the bearings which are fitted into the crankshaft halves, the inner races go in about 7/8 of the way in with relative ease, but I need to gently tap the races in the rest of the way with light pressure from a deadblow mallet. This does not seem right to me. I also clamped together the crankcase halves to check end play, but you cant move the crank side to side unless you tap it with the mallet (soft plastic, so as not to damage the ends of the crank). I wonder, if theinterference fit of the outer races in the crank halve shrunk the race slightly? I know a number of people have used superblends in the early dommi engines before, is my problem unique? I know some people dont think the superblends are necessary in the early engines, which may be correct, but I want them in my engine & know there are others who have fiitted them & am trying to discover what the problem is, not argue the case of weather or not they arenecessaryon the pre 1972 twins.

Thank you in advance! Hello Eugene Well Having read your thred I think You Are Making you self a lot of Hard Work for Nothing As You Could Of Fit R&M MJ30 right side of crank and left hand side of crank 3MRJA30 bronze cage roller bearing From Vintage Bearings And I Have a Spare Set These Bearing Where Fit Too The 650 And &50 Atlas So They would be more than adequate from you machine ? and with out all this fuss ?

Previously wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am fitting a pair of superblend main bearings into a '57 Dominator 600cc model 99 engine. I noticed before fitting the outer races into the crankcases, that the inner races were a nice snug fit into the outer races, as expected. After heating the crankcase halves, the outer races dropped right into place with no problems. Then I warmed up the inner races and slid them right onto the crankshaft with no problem (I also refrigerated the crankshaft first to shrink it. Now when I fit the crankshaft into the bearings which are fitted into the crankshaft halves, the inner races go in about 7/8 of the way in with relative ease, but I need to gently tap the races in the rest of the way with light pressure from a deadblow mallet. This does not seem right to me. I also clamped together the crankcase halves to check end play, but you cant move the crank side to side unless you tap it with the mallet (soft plastic, so as not to damage the ends of the crank). I wonder, if theinterference fit of the outer races in the crank halve shrunk the race slightly? I know a number of people have used superblends in the early dommi engines before, is my problem unique? I know some people dont think the superblends are necessary in the early engines, which may be correct, but I want them in my engine & know there are others who have fiitted them & am trying to discover what the problem is, not argue the case of weather or not they arenecessaryon the pre 1972 twins.

Thank you in advance! Hello Eugene Well Having read your thred I think You Are Making you self a lot of Hard Work for Nothing As You Could Of Fit R&M MJ30 right side of crank and left hand side of crank 3MRJA30 bronze cage roller bearing From Vintage Bearings And I Have a Spare Set These Bearing Where Fit Too The 650 And &750 Atlas So They would be more than adequate from you machine ? and with out all this fuss ?

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Thanks for the offer Anna, but I would have had the same problemunfortunately. Problem ended up being with deformation of my crankcase openings due to a previous bearing racedenigration. The superblends are a better bearing for sure, but are probably overkill for myapplication, but I know the bearings will outlast the next rebuild & I tend to like overkill when it comes to bearings. Good insurance I say. I also prefer bearing mfgs I have heard of (skf, fag, timken) . But thank you very

much for the offer!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello how do you work out that Superblend bearing are better than Ransom & Pollard British made Bearing at have been making bearing for the last 90 years ,and SKF, FAG,&TIMKEN Are all made in Germany and some are made in China with FAG stamp marks on ? that's why there so cheap ,So you may of fitted some FAG, SuperBland Bearing the Have Been Made In China and sent too Germany too be stamped marked FAG , I think I will Stick To British Made Bearings ?thanks

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Just because its made in Brittendoesn'tmake it good, I have sent many British made crap parts to the trash can! The county or origin does not dictate quality!!!! I can show you someexcellentaerospaceprecisionparts from China that are the best, and I can show you much junk from China as well! No different in the UK, USA, Germany, or anywhere else!You yourself havecondemnedseveral English based Norton suppliers for selling (in your opinion) Junk. FAG & Timken were good enough for Norton, good enough for me. I am now up to 8 full time proffessional Norton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends. First you tell me its a waste of money to buy superblends, then yourecommenda bearing that is the same price & is only a ball race, then you say its fault is where its made? You may certainly install whatever you want in you bike, but I want the best in mine. You are entitled to youropinion, but DO NOT condemn me for mine, it is very rude & it is one reason several people have emailed me to say that is why the wont contribute to this forum, if its not your way, it must be wrong. And for goodness sakes, this is an exclamatoin point: !!!!!!! This is a question mark: ?????

they are very different & mean verydifferentthings. It makes your posts very difficult to understand when they are used incorrectly.

Good DayMa'am

Hey up eugene Old lad for your infomation Superblend Bearings Was Designed By Peter Willams If I remember righty for the short stroke 850 Commando racing machine ,And they where made at that time By Ransom& Pollard bearing untill F.A.G. Bearing Germany took over from them ? so you of bined some british made parts so why are still messing about with Norton Motorcycle if British Parts are not AS good as the ones from China why not get your self a nice chinese Motorcycle Instead , And Then You will Have no more troubles ? just put the key in and start it and ride into the sunset , any way happy riding and chill out ? we all human after all ? we all Make Mistakes ?

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Just because its made in Brittendoesn'tmake it good, I have sent many British made crap parts to the trash can! The county or origin does not dictate quality!!!! I can show you someexcellentaerospaceprecisionparts from China that are the best, and I can show you much junk from China as well! No different in the UK, USA, Germany, or anywhere else!You yourself havecondemnedseveral English based Norton suppliers for selling (in your opinion) Junk. FAG & Timken were good enough for Norton, good enough for me. I am now up to 8 full time proffessional Norton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends. First you tell me its a waste of money to buy superblends, then yourecommenda bearing that is the same price & is only a ball race, then you say its fault is where its made? You may certainly install whatever you want in you bike, but I want the best in mine. You are entitled to youropinion, but DO NOT condemn me for mine, it is very rude & it is one reason several people have emailed me to say that is why the wont contribute to this forum, if its not your way, it must be wrong. And for goodness sakes, this is an exclamatoin point: !!!!!!! This is a question mark: ?????

they are very different & mean verydifferentthings. It makes your posts very difficult to understand when they are used incorrectly.

Good DayMa'am

Hey up eugene Old lad for your infomation Superblend Bearings Was Designed By Peter Willams If I remember righty for the short stroke 850 Commando racing machine ,And they where made at that time By Ransom& Pollard bearing untill F.A.G. Bearing Germany took over from them ? so you of bined some british made parts so why are still messing about with Norton Motorcycle if British Parts are not AS good as the ones from China why not get your self a nice chinese Motorcycle Instead , And Then You will Have no more troubles ? just put the key in and start it and ride into the sunset , any way happy riding and chill out ? we all human after all ? we all Make Mistakes ?

Anna,

what do you mean by Hey up? Anyway, please reread my earlier response again as you have obviously mis- read it the first time. I did not say anything about Chinese Motorcycles, I said just because some thing is made in a particular country, does notnecessarilymake it the best,weatherit is made in the UK, China, Israel, or the USA Secondly according to my FAG rep, you are not correct about Pollard making the superblend (unless you can link me to a document that shows otherwise, rather than just from yourmemory). Even if it were true it isirrelevant to this discussion who made it or designed the superblend.CHILL OUT YOU SAY, you are the one that started this mess! You need to learn sooner or later that Anna's way is not the only way, justbecausesomeone does not like your OPINION (not fact) you start a childish little rant. ! Perhaps another hobby may suit you better, perhaps boxing? And your last threesentencesended in question marks, I assume they reallyweren'tquestions? Perhaps youmeantfor them to beexclamationmarks like this !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess my previousgrammarlesson went unheeded. Again I say, "I am now up to 8 full timeprofessionalNorton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends" I guess you think you know more than thembecauseyou used to work n a boat, or turned a wrench or two on an American Manxman Norton? Its just not so, these Norton engine builders do this for a living and are educated in engineering, not boat mechanics. So as you can imagine I naturally would take their statement in a much higherregardthan a hobbyist. If you were to say, "I prefer Randy & Pollock bearings instead of the superblends because I think they will also do the job nicely"I would respect that as your opinion & wewouldn'tbe having this conversation right now, but you feel the need to make yourself appear as the all knowing expert at all things Norton, & every oneelse'sopinionis wrong. Frankly you spout off a lot of mis information on this forum & its really too bad about your attitude, because there have been some that you haveactuallyhelped, but the damage you have done on this forum isdespicable, butunfortunatelyit is apublicplace & everyone who is a member can put info here weather it is correct or not. & Some wont put good info herebecausethey don't want theembarrassmentyou your commentary telling them they dont know what they are talking about,becauseit differs from your opinion.

Skip Brolund

Totally agree Skip, I would not let it bother you though. It does tend to spoil what is generally an informative and useful site, we can do without the self-opinionated, semi-literate nonsense he/she writes!!!!!!!

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Just because its made in Brittendoesn'tmake it good, I have sent many British made crap parts to the trash can! The county or origin does not dictate quality!!!! I can show you someexcellentaerospaceprecisionparts from China that are the best, and I can show you much junk from China as well! No different in the UK, USA, Germany, or anywhere else!You yourself havecondemnedseveral English based Norton suppliers for selling (in your opinion) Junk. FAG & Timken were good enough for Norton, good enough for me. I am now up to 8 full time proffessional Norton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends. First you tell me its a waste of money to buy superblends, then yourecommenda bearing that is the same price & is only a ball race, then you say its fault is where its made? You may certainly install whatever you want in you bike, but I want the best in mine. You are entitled to youropinion, but DO NOT condemn me for mine, it is very rude & it is one reason several people have emailed me to say that is why the wont contribute to this forum, if its not your way, it must be wrong. And for goodness sakes, this is an exclamatoin point: !!!!!!! This is a question mark: ?????

they are very different & mean verydifferentthings. It makes your posts very difficult to understand when they are used incorrectly.

Good DayMa'am

Hello Eugene, Well I think You may of missed my intentions and I was only was trying my best to inform you of superblend Bearings ,my only regret is too try to inform in the first place , I Hope your norton restoration turns out nice ? and you ejoy riding it ? There It One Thing You Have read Me all Wrong ? And I do Not Profess to know it all Far from it? No one Knows every thing , Not even Dr Brian Cox Knows every thing ! And As far as those Boats that You say I once worked On, A 250,000 ton Ship Is hardly a boat ! And I was A Chef Engineer! On these 250,000 ton vessels ,I think That counts as being a professional , And as for my motorcycling Hobbie I have only been riding Motorcycles for over 40 years Now! So I should know something about Norton's by now ,And as for miss infomation that you say, I have Given where is it ? R&M Bearing are the Standard Bearing that Norton used in the 1960s, And at the timing side MJ30 Ball race bearing , 3MRJA30M bronze cage roller bearing ,As these Bearing came from my 1960 Norton Manxman and the same bearings type of bearing's where fitted to the Norton Atlas too ? And as to support my thoughts on Super-blend spherical type Bearing it was R&M Bearings, Now Ransome.Hoffmann.Pollard .That As the patents to Part number 063906 and the Bear Number .6/MRJA30 was the early super-blend Bearing witch is now bearing number NJ306E made By F.A.G Bearings The First Commando engine to have Super-blend Bearings was engine number 211891, August 1972 . See Norton Commando forum .www.accessnorton.com/super-blend-help ! So I hope this now Helps you and I only wish my best for you ? I may only be a Female But I do know somthing about Norton Motorcycles ? As I have two of Them ? One 1954 Norton dominator 88, 500cc and a 1960 Norton Manxman 650cc, Witch I have Rebuilt both of them my self , In the past I have owned an Norton jubillee 250cc then a 1951 ES2 and two Model 99's and a Model 7 and a 99SS Cafe racer and meany Japanese machines as well , and I still have a Honda 250 for trips to the shops ? or I go in the Transit van to the shops ? yours Anna J Dixon Secretary East Yorkshire Branch

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Just because its made in Brittendoesn'tmake it good, I have sent many British made crap parts to the trash can! The county or origin does not dictate quality!!!! I can show you someexcellentaerospaceprecisionparts from China that are the best, and I can show you much junk from China as well! No different in the UK, USA, Germany, or anywhere else!You yourself havecondemnedseveral English based Norton suppliers for selling (in your opinion) Junk. FAG & Timken were good enough for Norton, good enough for me. I am now up to 8 full time proffessional Norton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends. First you tell me its a waste of money to buy superblends, then yourecommenda bearing that is the same price & is only a ball race, then you say its fault is where its made? You may certainly install whatever you want in you bike, but I want the best in mine. You are entitled to youropinion, but DO NOT condemn me for mine, it is very rude & it is one reason several people have emailed me to say that is why the wont contribute to this forum, if its not your way, it must be wrong. And for goodness sakes, this is an exclamatoin point: !!!!!!! This is a question mark: ?????

they are very different & mean verydifferentthings. It makes your posts very difficult to understand when they are used incorrectly.

Good DayMa'am

Hey up eugene Old lad for your infomation Superblend Bearings Was Designed By Peter Willams If I remember righty for the short stroke 850 Commando racing machine ,And they where made at that time By Ransom& Pollard bearing untill F.A.G. Bearing Germany took over from them ? so you of bined some british made parts so why are still messing about with Norton Motorcycle if British Parts are not AS good as the ones from China why not get your self a nice chinese Motorcycle Instead , And Then You will Have no more troubles ? just put the key in and start it and ride into the sunset , any way happy riding and chill out ? we all human after all ? we all Make Mistakes ?

Anna,

what do you mean by Hey up? Anyway, please reread my earlier response again as you have obviously mis- read it the first time. I did not say anything about Chinese Motorcycles, I said just because some thing is made in a particular country, does notnecessarilymake it the best,weatherit is made in the UK, China, Israel, or the USA Secondly according to my FAG rep, you are not correct about Pollard making the superblend (unless you can link me to a document that shows otherwise, rather than just from yourmemory). Even if it were true it isirrelevant to this discussion who made it or designed the superblend.CHILL OUT YOU SAY, you are the one that started this mess! You need to learn sooner or later that Anna's way is not the only way, justbecausesomeone does not like your OPINION (not fact) you start a childish little rant. ! Perhaps another hobby may suit you better, perhaps boxing? And your last threesentencesended in question marks, I assume they reallyweren'tquestions? Perhaps youmeantfor them to beexclamationmarks like this !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess my previousgrammarlesson went unheeded. Again I say, "I am now up to 8 full timeprofessionalNorton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends" I guess you think you know more than thembecauseyou used to work n a boat, or turned a wrench or two on an American Manxman Norton? Its just not so, these Norton engine builders do this for a living and are educated in engineering, not boat mechanics. So as you can imagine I naturally would take their statement in a much higherregardthan a hobbyist. If you were to say, "I prefer Randy & Pollock bearings instead of the superblends because I think they will also do the job nicely"I would respect that as your opinion & wewouldn'tbe having this conversation right now, but you feel the need to make yourself appear as the all knowing expert at all things Norton, & every oneelse'sopinionis wrong. Frankly you spout off a lot of mis information on this forum & its really too bad about your attitude, because there have been some that you haveactuallyhelped, but the damage you have done on this forum isdespicable, butunfortunatelyit is apublicplace & everyone who is a member can put info here weather it is correct or not. & Some wont put good info herebecausethey don't want theembarrassmentyou your commentary telling them they dont know what they are talking about,becauseit differs from your opinion.

Skip Brolund

Totally agree Skip, I would not let it bother you though. It does tend to spoil what is generally an informative and useful site, we can do without the self-opinionated, semi-literate nonsense he/she writes!!!!!!!

Hello John I do object to comments Like this , it is unfounded and what do you mean By He/she ? is this an verbal attack on my gender well if it is may I say You are going in very dangerous area here . this web thread it not for personal ear bashing so please do not go there , I am only trying to help Members ,And I can do with out personal verbal gender bashing ? I have not said anything wrong to you have I ? This type of comment only choruses more harm to the club , Yours Anna J Dixon ,

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Just because its made in Brittendoesn'tmake it good, I have sent many British made crap parts to the trash can! The county or origin does not dictate quality!!!! I can show you someexcellentaerospaceprecisionparts from China that are the best, and I can show you much junk from China as well! No different in the UK, USA, Germany, or anywhere else!You yourself havecondemnedseveral English based Norton suppliers for selling (in your opinion) Junk. FAG & Timken were good enough for Norton, good enough for me. I am now up to 8 full time proffessional Norton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends. First you tell me its a waste of money to buy superblends, then yourecommenda bearing that is the same price & is only a ball race, then you say its fault is where its made? You may certainly install whatever you want in you bike, but I want the best in mine. You are entitled to youropinion, but DO NOT condemn me for mine, it is very rude & it is one reason several people have emailed me to say that is why the wont contribute to this forum, if its not your way, it must be wrong. And for goodness sakes, this is an exclamatoin point: !!!!!!! This is a question mark: ?????

they are very different & mean verydifferentthings. It makes your posts very difficult to understand when they are used incorrectly.

Good DayMa'am

Hey up eugene Old lad for your infomation Superblend Bearings Was Designed By Peter Willams If I remember righty for the short stroke 850 Commando racing machine ,And they where made at that time By Ransom& Pollard bearing untill F.A.G. Bearing Germany took over from them ? so you of bined some british made parts so why are still messing about with Norton Motorcycle if British Parts are not AS good as the ones from China why not get your self a nice chinese Motorcycle Instead , And Then You will Have no more troubles ? just put the key in and start it and ride into the sunset , any way happy riding and chill out ? we all human after all ? we all Make Mistakes ?

Anna,

what do you mean by Hey up? Anyway, please reread my earlier response again as you have obviously mis- read it the first time. I did not say anything about Chinese Motorcycles, I said just because some thing is made in a particular country, does notnecessarilymake it the best,weatherit is made in the UK, China, Israel, or the USA Secondly according to my FAG rep, you are not correct about Pollard making the superblend (unless you can link me to a document that shows otherwise, rather than just from yourmemory). Even if it were true it isirrelevant to this discussion who made it or designed the superblend.CHILL OUT YOU SAY, you are the one that started this mess! You need to learn sooner or later that Anna's way is not the only way, justbecausesomeone does not like your OPINION (not fact) you start a childish little rant. ! Perhaps another hobby may suit you better, perhaps boxing? And your last threesentencesended in question marks, I assume they reallyweren'tquestions? Perhaps youmeantfor them to beexclamationmarks like this !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess my previousgrammarlesson went unheeded. Again I say, "I am now up to 8 full timeprofessionalNorton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends" I guess you think you know more than thembecauseyou used to work n a boat, or turned a wrench or two on an American Manxman Norton? Its just not so, these Norton engine builders do this for a living and are educated in engineering, not boat mechanics. So as you can imagine I naturally would take their statement in a much higherregardthan a hobbyist. If you were to say, "I prefer Randy & Pollock bearings instead of the superblends because I think they will also do the job nicely"I would respect that as your opinion & wewouldn'tbe having this conversation right now, but you feel the need to make yourself appear as the all knowing expert at all things Norton, & every oneelse'sopinionis wrong. Frankly you spout off a lot of mis information on this forum & its really too bad about your attitude, because there have been some that you haveactuallyhelped, but the damage you have done on this forum isdespicable, butunfortunatelyit is apublicplace & everyone who is a member can put info here weather it is correct or not. & Some wont put good info herebecausethey don't want theembarrassmentyou your commentary telling them they dont know what they are talking about,becauseit differs from your opinion.

Skip Brolund

Totally agree Skip, I would not let it bother you though. It does tend to spoil what is generally an informative and useful site, we can do without the self-opinionated, semi-literate nonsense he/she writes!!!!!!!

Hello John I do object to comments Like this , it is unfounded and what do you mean By He/she ? is this an verbal attack on my gender well if it is may I say You are going in very dangerous area here . this web thread it not for personal ear bashing so please do not go there , I am only trying to help Members ,And I can do with out personal verbal gender bashing ? I have not said anything wrong to you have I ? This type of comment only choruses more harm to the club , Yours Anna J Dixon ,

Hi Anna, this was not meant to be a(verbal?) attack on your gender it was a general comment regarding whoever writes into the forum. I'm sure that you are a very nice lady with good intentions, however sometimes the comments you make can be difficult to understand. I think that people outside the UK will not understand some of your quotes as you use some of the oldlocal expressions, which although you obviously mean them to be light harted banter will be taken the wrong way. Cheers, JMc

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Just because its made in Brittendoesn'tmake it good, I have sent many British made crap parts to the trash can! The county or origin does not dictate quality!!!! I can show you someexcellentaerospaceprecisionparts from China that are the best, and I can show you much junk from China as well! No different in the UK, USA, Germany, or anywhere else!You yourself havecondemnedseveral English based Norton suppliers for selling (in your opinion) Junk. FAG & Timken were good enough for Norton, good enough for me. I am now up to 8 full time proffessional Norton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends. First you tell me its a waste of money to buy superblends, then yourecommenda bearing that is the same price & is only a ball race, then you say its fault is where its made? You may certainly install whatever you want in you bike, but I want the best in mine. You are entitled to youropinion, but DO NOT condemn me for mine, it is very rude & it is one reason several people have emailed me to say that is why the wont contribute to this forum, if its not your way, it must be wrong. And for goodness sakes, this is an exclamatoin point: !!!!!!! This is a question mark: ?????

they are very different & mean verydifferentthings. It makes your posts very difficult to understand when they are used incorrectly.

Good DayMa'am

Hey up eugene Old lad for your infomation Superblend Bearings Was Designed By Peter Willams If I remember righty for the short stroke 850 Commando racing machine ,And they where made at that time By Ransom& Pollard bearing untill F.A.G. Bearing Germany took over from them ? so you of bined some british made parts so why are still messing about with Norton Motorcycle if British Parts are not AS good as the ones from China why not get your self a nice chinese Motorcycle Instead , And Then You will Have no more troubles ? just put the key in and start it and ride into the sunset , any way happy riding and chill out ? we all human after all ? we all Make Mistakes ?

Anna,

what do you mean by Hey up? Anyway, please reread my earlier response again as you have obviously mis- read it the first time. I did not say anything about Chinese Motorcycles, I said just because some thing is made in a particular country, does notnecessarilymake it the best,weatherit is made in the UK, China, Israel, or the USA Secondly according to my FAG rep, you are not correct about Pollard making the superblend (unless you can link me to a document that shows otherwise, rather than just from yourmemory). Even if it were true it isirrelevant to this discussion who made it or designed the superblend.CHILL OUT YOU SAY, you are the one that started this mess! You need to learn sooner or later that Anna's way is not the only way, justbecausesomeone does not like your OPINION (not fact) you start a childish little rant. ! Perhaps another hobby may suit you better, perhaps boxing? And your last threesentencesended in question marks, I assume they reallyweren'tquestions? Perhaps youmeantfor them to beexclamationmarks like this !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess my previousgrammarlesson went unheeded. Again I say, "I am now up to 8 full timeprofessionalNorton engine builders that agree with me on the superblends" I guess you think you know more than thembecauseyou used to work n a boat, or turned a wrench or two on an American Manxman Norton? Its just not so, these Norton engine builders do this for a living and are educated in engineering, not boat mechanics. So as you can imagine I naturally would take their statement in a much higherregardthan a hobbyist. If you were to say, "I prefer Randy & Pollock bearings instead of the superblends because I think they will also do the job nicely"I would respect that as your opinion & wewouldn'tbe having this conversation right now, but you feel the need to make yourself appear as the all knowing expert at all things Norton, & every oneelse'sopinionis wrong. Frankly you spout off a lot of mis information on this forum & its really too bad about your attitude, because there have been some that you haveactuallyhelped, but the damage you have done on this forum isdespicable, butunfortunatelyit is apublicplace & everyone who is a member can put info here weather it is correct or not. & Some wont put good info herebecausethey don't want theembarrassmentyou your commentary telling them they dont know what they are talking about,becauseit differs from your opinion.

Skip Brolund

Totally agree Skip, I would not let it bother you though. It does tend to spoil what is generally an informative and useful site, we can do without the self-opinionated, semi-literate nonsense he/she writes!!!!!!!

Hello John I do object to comments Like this , it is unfounded and what do you mean By He/she ? is this an verbal attack on my gender well if it is may I say You are going in very dangerous area here . this web thread it not for personal ear bashing so please do not go there , I am only trying to help Members ,And I can do with out personal verbal gender bashing ? I have not said anything wrong to you have I ? This type of comment only choruses more harm to the club , Yours Anna J Dixon ,

Hi Anna, this was not meant to be a(verbal?) attack on your gender it was a general comment regarding whoever writes into the forum. I'm sure that you are a very nice lady with good intentions, however sometimes the comments you make can be difficult to understand. I think that people outside the UK will not understand some of your quotes as you use some of the oldlocal expressions, which although you obviously mean them to be light harted banter will be taken the wrong way. Cheers, JMc

Hello john thanks for that ,I do not like getting into verbal arguments on the interweb I just like too help foke's ! if I can ! Yours AJD