Good Afternoon,
I have a box of bits that I'm told will almost build a complete international 30. I have owned it for the last year but as I'm sure you will all appreciate life takes over. I have got it out and it is now, front and centre of the workshop. My current target is to get a rolling chassis. The frame is from 1947. Now with it being a bitser bike I'm not too worried about it being perfectly original and the main focus is to get her back on the road, having said that I don't want to be using metric bolts, as that's definitely not in the spirit. I am missing a few parts that I have identified so far. I'm sure there will be lots more but on my current list is:
- front mudguard and the back section of the rear mudguard (I have seen "autocycle engineering" on the suppliers list but have not yet reached out to them does anyone have experience with them?)
- fasteners nuts bolts washers, I don't have any and not sure what would have been standard/period correct. I assume that they will be mainly Cycle Thread throughout but before buying out the shop I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction. (I had been looking at "Nooky's Nuts")
Thank You all in advance for the help
kind regards
Digby
Hi Digby, I have found …
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Hi. I'm in a similar…
Hi. I'm in a similar position with a 1953 Model 30. I have been using www.rgmnorton.co.uk as well as www.racingnorton.co.uk that Patrick mentioned. I see that the owners club has quite a range too. There's also www.andover-norton.co.uk and www.feked.com and www.norvilmotorcycle.co.uk and www.norbsa02.freeuk.com (electrics) and www.surreycycles.com (carburettors) although I haven't purchased anything from any of them yet.
Simon
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Nuts and bolts.
Hi Digby,
There are lots of imperial fasteners on ebay and if you buy some taps and dies it is not too difficult to make engine studs and through bolts for all the general sizes. Another option could be to use items from other makes such as Triumph or BSA. If you are not aware there are 2 TPI pitches for cycle threads, the larger sizes are 20 TPI and are compatible with UNF threads, but the hexagon head size is different.
The chap that started "Nooky's Nuts" sadly died about 3 or 4 years ago, but I am not sure if his business is still trading.
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Nooky’s nuts.
His was a good value general purpose nuts/bolts etc selection, so no good for most of International stuff.
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Authors country
Here is an excellent example of a forum topic that illustrates the need to show the authors location (country) on the "Submitted by" line. Some of the responders seem to somehow have guessed USA, others Canada. If only we could see where the author is from we could help so much better..... Come on Chandeep get coding please!
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updated. apologies not…
updated. apologies not something I had considered but will do from now on
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Fasteners
Thank you very much to you all for your kind help and suggestions. I have been slowly going through the parts catalogue trying to identify what I need to purchase that is not in my boxes of parts but with the fasteners, I'm left a little stuck as all I have is a part number. Do any of you know if anyone has managed to identify what size bolts the different part numbers relate to? or is it just a case of a well-educated guess?
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Hi Digby, I have found "hardware" to be the absolute biggest headache with basket case restorations. There is a company in the U.S. called McMaster Carr who sell a huge range of bolts, nuts, washers, screws etc. https://www.mcmaster.com . I have not tried them personally but a mate of mine has used them a lot over the years, and I plan to do so fairly soon. Said mate says that you need to have a company name to deal with them - just make something up like "Digby Norton Ltd". You are correct in that most nuts & bolts on the Nortons are Cycle Thread. Nearly all Norton hardware of that era was finished in satin chrome. Virtually all the plating shops here in western Canada didn't even know what that was, but I did eventually find one that did - and they did a commendable job in replicating the original finish. I'm what's known in the U.K. as an "anorak" - at least as far as my Inter is concerned!
When I restored my ES2 there wasn't a single nut, bolt or washer that was useable - well, most were missing as it was incomplete and in boxes. I chose to go down the stainless road and bought pretty much everything from Dave Middleton or Andy Molnar. Some items were not regular stock and Dave machined them to the correct specs.
Good luck!