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I have just aquired a 1959 Dominator 99, frame and engine number P14-79695. previously there has taken place some fairly basic renovation of the tinware. It's currently all grey, however the forks are dark green. Is there any way to tell what the original colour should be? For reference I add a link to some pictures of the bike:

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twinrecords@nortonownersclub.org

Clive, if you contact the people in the link above, I feel certain they will inform you what colour you bike left the factory in.

I was unsure about my 1960 99, as it had a lot of blue bits on it when I got it but they were able to confirm that it was actually black and dove grey when new. Nearly finished now...

Good Luck.

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Previously neil_wyatt wrote:

twinrecords@nortonownersclub.org

Clive, if you contact the people in the link above, I feel certain they will inform you what colour you bike left the factory in.

I was unsure about my 1960 99, as it had a lot of blue bits on it when I got it but they were able to confirm that it was actually black and dove grey when new. Nearly finished now...

Good Luck.

Thanks Neil. Email sent!

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Hi Neil,

I got the reply detailed below from Dave at TwinRecords, so I'm stuck with the colour as stated on the V5 as Grey

I have checked the factory records for your machine but unfortunately the colour is not listed. There are large gaps regarding colours so wether or not that is down to the person on the day not recording them I don't know.Your machine built in 1958 was a 1959 model as any machine built after August in any year was deemed the next years model.

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Had to be worth a try Clive, but if you don't like grey then you could choose anything available for your model and year. That way it would still be original.

Thanks for getting back.

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Previously neil_wyatt wrote:

twinrecords@nortonownersclub.org

Clive, if you contact the people in the link above, I feel certain they will inform you what colour you bike left the factory in.

I was unsure about my 1960 99, as it had a lot of blue bits on it when I got it but they were able to confirm that it was actually black and dove grey when new. Nearly finished now...

Good Luck.

Hello Clive your Norton colour is Export Metalsecent Blue , the Nearess Colour to this is Rolls Royce Le-mans Metalic Blue Silver Base coat, first, the Under coat should be Etching Undercoat Or zinc P182 .Isopol this bites into the metal, and give good rust proofing but you need more than one coat , up to four maybe needed,

your Anna J

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Or you could go for the 'standard' black and silver, like mine was ex-works (a 1959 Dommie 99 'Special'). Anna won't like it as she reckons us blokes are boring and should gofor a proper colour! Mine had the optional chrome mudguards, h/c pistons and twin carbs for that year - hence John Hudson had it listed as a "99 Special" when he checked the recordsduring an extensive exchange of correspondence in 1965. I can swear by etchant primer - mine was done by a local blast & paint shop and it doesn't rust even after 8 years without a topcoat! Even though the old primary chaincase looks like a colander after grit-blasting! My engine/frame No. is P14 too and it's date is confirmed by the stamping at the lower front edge of the rear mudguard - "Jul 1959". This is not easily seen on painted guards but chrome is much thinner. I added a chrome primary case when I first rebuilt it as it went well with the tank panels and 'guards so I managed to find a chrome one to replace the old rusted (but restorable) chrome one. Dunno what I did with the original, original painted one in 1965! They were chromed as standard from 1960 onwards so mine wouldn't be strictly concours with a chrome one.

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PS. Mine's a bit later than yours Clive- first registered 16th July 1959 according to the buff R.F.60 logbook. Serial No.is 83XXX.

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Previously lionel_yexley wrote:

Or you could go for the 'standard' black and silver, like mine was ex-works (a 1959 Dommie 99 'Special'). Anna won't like it as she reckons us blokes are boring and should gofor a proper colour! Mine had the optional chrome mudguards, h/c pistons and twin carbs for that year - hence John Hudson had it listed as a "99 Special" when he checked the recordsduring an extensive exchange of correspondence in 1965. I can swear by etchant primer - mine was done by a local blast & paint shop and it doesn't rust even after 8 years without a topcoat! Even though the old primary chaincase looks like a colander after grit-blasting! My engine/frame No. is P14 too and it's date is confirmed by the stamping at the lower front edge of the rear mudguard - "Jul 1959". This is not easily seen on painted guards but chrome is much thinner. I added a chrome primary case when I first rebuilt it as it went well with the tank panels and 'guards so I managed to find a chrome one to replace the old rusted (but restorable) chrome one. Dunno what I did with the original, original painted one in 1965! They were chromed as standard from 1960 onwards so mine wouldn't be strictly concours with a chrome one.

Hello Loinel well old freind Black and Silver that maybe what you like and you can knock you selfs out with it, but Clive was asking what Colour his bike was as I came out of the ledgionary Bracebridge street workshop, and as you see I have anwsered this question , now go have some fun in the sun , happy riding yours anna j

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OK Anna - I was just giving him options for the year,like others have done here. Cheers, Lionel

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Previously lionel_yexley wrote:

OK Anna - I was just giving him options for the year,like others have done here. Cheers, Lionel

Hello Lionel yes I do know your a Great guy and very knowledgeable on all things that came out of bracebridge street workshops like me your very passion is the Bracebridge street eara it would be nice if we all could set up a Regisiter just for this eara the Bracebridge Register Norton owners club .set with in the Norton owners club , what dose other think of this ,

may a seprate subject , yours anna j

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Thanks Anna and all the other contributors! Can I ask Anna, how did you obtain the information that my bike was originally Export Metalsecent Blue?

thanks

Clive

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Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

Previously lionel_yexley wrote:

OK Anna - I was just giving him options for the year,like others have done here. Cheers, Lionel

Hello Lionel yes I do know your a Great guy and very knowledgeable on all things that came out of bracebridge street workshops like me your very passion is the Bracebridge street eara it would be nice if we all could set up a Regisiter just for this eara the Bracebridge Register Norton owners club .set with in the Norton owners club , what dose other think of this ,

may a seprate subject , yours anna j

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Previously clive_stephenson wrote:

Thanks Anna and all the other contributors! Can I ask Anna, how did you obtain the information that my bike was originally Export Metalsecent Blue?

thanks

Clive

Now Clive that's a Norton owners club well kept secret, have a nice time with your prized norton twin , yours Anna J

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Hi Anna, I've looked and can find no Norton pictures sporting ametalescent blue colour scheme. Do you know of any?

Thanks,

Clive

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Previously clive_stephenson wrote:

Hi Anna, I've looked and can find no Norton pictures sporting ametalescent blue colour scheme. Do you know of any?

Thanks,

Clive

Yes there was one on ebay not long since , it sold for £8,750 or something

yours Anna J

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That seems an awful lot of money!

I asked a HMG Paints about the Le Mans Blue paint and got this reply:

Hello Clive, We are not paint stockist, but manufacturers. We have made the RR Le Mans Blue once before, but it was way back in 1979, the tints have changed somewhat since then. If we could get a sample from you of the Norton original colour, we might be able to do a physical match, but the metalecent bit makes it sound like a specialist finish, like a pearlescent or something. In which case we wouldnât be able to reproduce it.RegardsPaulHMG Paints LtdRiverside WorksCollyhurst RoadCollyhurstManchesterM40 7RU

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HMG Paints of Collyhurst rings a bell. They supplied me with Post Office Red paint for my "99" back in the late 70's. I still have the remainder of the paint in a tin. Thestuff they supplied made an excellent match for the Post Office colour and remained in good order until a couple of years ago when I decided to do it again.

I have seen two of the metallic blue dominators recently , in fact a chap I know 3 miles away has one. If you are stuck with further info I can call and see him to see if he has an paint numbers.

Cheers Mick

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Previously michael_addison wrote:

HMG Paints of Collyhurst rings a bell. They supplied me with Post Office Red paint for my "99" back in the late 70's. I still have the remainder of the paint in a tin. Thestuff they supplied made an excellent match for the Post Office colour and remained in good order until a couple of years ago when I decided to do it again.

I have seen two of the metallic blue dominators recently , in fact a chap I know 3 miles away has one. If you are stuck with further info I can call and see him to see if he has an paint numbers.

Cheers Mick

Well have you tryed Nu-again Paint Bedford www.nu-againpaints.co.uk

they do all sort of paint colours , and they make there own paint too

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Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

Previously michael_addison wrote:

HMG Paints of Collyhurst rings a bell. They supplied me with Post Office Red paint for my "99" back in the late 70's. I still have the remainder of the paint in a tin. Thestuff they supplied made an excellent match for the Post Office colour and remained in good order until a couple of years ago when I decided to do it again.

I have seen two of the metallic blue dominators recently , in fact a chap I know 3 miles away has one. If you are stuck with further info I can call and see him to see if he has an paint numbers.

Cheers Mick

Well have you tryed Nu-again Paint Bedford www.nu-againpaints.co.uk

they do all sort of paint colours , and they make there own paint too

That link doesn't work.

Bruce

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Previously clive_stephenson wrote:

I've had a look at nu-again paints. They're selling their Ice Blue Metallichere on eBay:http://goo.gl/FEM2OD

I would appreciate it if anyone's got a paint code

Well its not bad but the Norton's blue is more silvery blue than this, FEM20D

yours Anna J

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