What should I do now my bike is MOT exempt?

I believe you can retax it now and declare it MOT exempt even though it is already taxed. It costs nothing because it is free tax. It just changes the date when tax will be due next time.

Ian

You don't need to do anything. You can't be prosecuted for not having an MOT if it is exempt.

dont know if this will help

https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles/apply-for-vehicle-tax-exemption

Barry

If your bike is already registered as 'Historic' then, when the tax comes up for (free) renewal, as long as it has valid insurance' the tax will be renewed - simples! I did this on my '74 Commando at the beginning of June.

Yes, as has been said the key is the 'Historic' taxation class. I just went through this with my Triumph Herald. On the web page where you renew your free road tax, there's a box to tick to declare that your vehicle is old enough to be exempt from MoT, and that it hasn't been extensively modified since it was manufactured. Off the top of my head, with my car that would mean something like dropping in a fuel injected engine from a Ford Focus and uprating suspension, brakes etc. â I know someone who's done this with a Triumph Spitfire, which when manufactured was pretty much just a sporty version of the Herald, under the skin! My Commando only has what you might call the 'usual upgrades', e.g. the motor is basically standard but I have a front brake that works, etc. That's fine. So, if that's you, just tick the box and you're done!

Of course, then the responsibility is entirely on you to ensure that your ride is safe and fully functioning ...

Has anyone any experience of the process when the machine is currently on SORN? My Commando is 1976 and has been on SORN for some time, so I was planning to get an MoT, then go through the Historic Vehicle registration process.

Can I then go on the gov.uk website to tax it for free, like Colin mentions above?

Thanks, Phil.

Previously Philip Ham wrote:

Has anyone any experience of the process when the machine is currently on SORN? My Commando is 1976 and has been on SORN for some time, so I was planning to get an MoT, then go through the Historic Vehicle registration process.

Can I then go on the gov.uk website to tax it for free, like Colin mentions above?

Thanks, Phil.

I went through the SORNed-for-years thing with my Commando, as it happens! And from what you say you have yet to get 'Historic' taxation class. This was a right palaver for me. Things might've changed since your Commando is now MOT-exempt, but I can't say that I've noticed. Anyone â??

Otherwise â? Others might've found different routes but, as I recall, if I wanted to ride the bike rather than wait for the paperwork, I had to get it MOTed; pay road tax for it â just 6 months; take the V5 to a post office and have them check it and send it to DVLA to get the taxation class changed to 'Historic'; wait for the new V5; then write to DVLA for a refund on your road tax â IIRC, I had to send the V5 with that application, and got back yet another one! IIRC â? Anyway I got the refund. Then you should be able to tick the box online for MOT-exempt.

As I can.

If you're not fussed about riding it, skip the MOT and road tax, do the rest and just wait. HTH

Previously Colin Peterson wrote:

Previously Philip Ham wrote:

Has anyone any experience of the process when the machine is currently on SORN? My Commando is 1976 and has been on SORN for some time, so I was planning to get an MoT, then go through the Historic Vehicle registration process.

Can I then go on the gov.uk website to tax it for free, like Colin mentions above?

Thanks, Phil.

I went through the SORNed-for-years thing with my Commando, as it happens! And from what you say you have yet to get 'Historic' taxation class. This was a right palaver for me. Things might've changed since your Commando is now MOT-exempt, but I can't say that I've noticed. Anyone â??

Otherwise â? Others might've found different routes but, as I recall, if I wanted to ride the bike rather than wait for the paperwork, I had to get it MOTed; pay road tax for it â just 6 months; take the V5 to a post office and have them check it and send it to DVLA to get the taxation class changed to 'Historic'; wait for the new V5; then write to DVLA for a refund on your road tax â IIRC, I had to send the V5 with that application, and got back yet another one! IIRC â? Anyway I got the refund. Then you should be able to tick the box online for MOT-exempt.

As I can.

If you're not fussed about riding it, skip the MOT and road tax, do the rest and just wait. HTH

Colin,

Thanks for your insight in this matter. I'll get the MoT for my own peace of mind so that an impartial eye can look over it. At least then I can do as you say and get the tax so that it can be ridden before the winter sets in. Then I can follow up the Historic registration and any refund.

Phil.

This may help, I registered my 1975 Commando as tax exempt/historic when the last tax expired (April), I received a backdated refund from the DVLA without requesting it in July (that was a surprise).

My MOT expired on July 20, I printed out the online form from the DVLA's website, completed it & took it to the Post Officewho then sent it off to the DVLA, if it is a historic vehicle it is MOT exempt.

I may well choose to have an uncertificated 'MOT'just to keep me honest

Mike

Mike, you printed off which form â?? To change taxation class? If so, that might be a step I've missed out above â? And, if so, I expect I was handed the form when I was at the post office. But it'd be useful to clear up which form you mean. I outlined the process above as I remember it, but I admit it's getting a bit foggy already â? I didn't have to fill in a form for MOT exemption. Cheers.

i renewed the historic tax on mine online in july it went through ok .just checked the online mot status it says,( no results returned). i think its the case that i should have taxed it at the post office and used the v112 form to declare it safe.

Barry

Once I'd organised the Historic taxation class, I didn't have to bother with any forms â just click to re-tax (free of course) and then click to say MOT-exempt.

Hi Colin,

Form V112 (exemption from MOT):

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/declaration-of-exemption-from-mot

It's utterly painless

Regards

Mike

Interesting, thanks for sharing â I think the key words are that 'you will need to fill in this form and produce it when you tax your vehicle at a Post Office' â that should help anyone going through the 'sorned-for-years' process now that our bikes are MOT-exempt, I very much hope it does! Cheers.

After some further reading on this, it seems there are two things to sort out. The V112 form simply gives exemption from having an MoT. I used to use this form at work for the heavy tractors used for ditch maintenance.

The other bit is to get your V5C amended to show Historic Vehicle class in the "Changes" section. This has to be done at a Post Office that does road tax. Take your V5C and the V112 to the post office and they should send it to DVLA to me updated.

So I'm off to the post office tomorrow to do just that.

Philip.

well with both my nortons I filled in a V112 and sent them off to dvla and six weeks later you go on line to verify your mot and tax status and you click on to a green box and it dose it all for you painless yours anna j

My 650SS falls due for the renewal of its historic tax at the end of this month and, like everybody else, I was confused as to what action is required regarding the MoT. I had hoped the V11 reminder would offer some guidance but it didn't. I've just gone through the usual procedure on line and there was no requirement to tick a box about the MoT, but in my case this actually expires on the 1st November so is still current for the start of the new tax period - just. Consequently I'm still confused!

However, I have come across this wording on the government's website about the matter:

"You wonât have to apply to stop getting an MOT for your vehicle." This is under paragraph 5 of page

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mot-changes-20-may-2018

Consequently my expectation is that next time my tax is due for renewal I will have the necessary box to tick but don't think I need to do anything in the meantime.

Unless somebody can point out otherwise!

My bike has been classed as historic for years and has not been on SORN since about 1981 so I don't have those complications to cloud the issue.

i rang the DVSA to ask about the mot status on mine which is already historic class. they said for it to be taxed you must have ticked the appropriate boxes online and they said as long as its taxed and insured don't worry. they said i must have ticked the box concerning the mot for it to be taxed. problem with that i didn't see any box to tick concerning the mot side of things. so i don't know.

You can also take your V11 tax reminder along to a post office and they will do everything for you online- the DVLA online system will only allow taxto be processed for another year if MOT status (ie, don't need an MOT) is OK. Don't worry , if you are alreadyregistered asHistoric tax class you are OK and it will all go through. Justretaxed two of my Historic bikes at the post officeand the guy told me the onlinetax renewal systemwould not haveworked ifan MOT was required.

You can check onlinea few days later after DVLA system has updated and under MOT status it will say something like"no test result submitted" indicating no MOT required.

Previously karl_nixon wrote:

So my 1975 Commando is now MOT as well as tax exempt an yesterday the old MOT expired. It is insured and is taxed (well free but declared on the road not on SORN) so do i just keep riding it or like when it became tax exempt is there some official process that needs to be gone through??

It is my understanding that the next time I renew its road tax this means i myself not an MOT tester am saying it is fit to be on the road is this correct?

If the above is true then at the minute it is neither MOT or declared by anyone to be fit to be on the road. Most of what i have found online is not clear about this unless of course Google is not looking in the right place.

Thanks Karl

hello if you have not already sorted it I down loaded a V112

DECLARATION OF EXEMPTION FORM FROM MOT just put in V112 and it will come up

you take this to the post office with your DOCs and they will send it away after the have taxed your bike and your DOCs come back as a Historic vehicle

Sorry if its too late ALLAN BROOKS

i have a frame that has ( not licensed ) written in the log book where the tax class section is. can i just change it to historic and send the log book in or is there another process. i just wanted to change it to historic before i do anything to it. the chap at the dvla said just tax it at the post office then change the taxation class then send it off .but that would involve an mot declaration as its in bits i don't see how i can do that. and it will need insurance so i don't know.

Barry

'Barry, the general rule is that you have to do taxation class changes at the post office, the v5 makes this clear in section 7 So you are correct in your assumption that youâll need an mot exemption form and insurance. Itâs also worth noting that the not licensed class was (originally at least) for vehicles that were allowed to keep their registration mark but had been off the road for some time (ie pre sorn), Iâm not sure about now but when there were VROs some of these were subsequently inspected by DVLA to make sure they were genuine.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/734765/inf34-taxing-historic-vehicles.pdf

thanks for the info Dan.based on that i think i will leave it for now .

Barry

You can only change the taxation class when taxing the vehicle, so if you don't t plan to tax it then it has to stay as is. I have pre sorn projects but have ensured they went to V5, blue V5c and the latest red V5c so they are still on the system.

Previously allan_brooks wrote:

Previously karl_nixon wrote:

So my 1975 Commando is now MOT as well as tax exempt an yesterday the old MOT expired. It is insured and is taxed (well free but declared on the road not on SORN) so do i just keep riding it or like when it became tax exempt is there some official process that needs to be gone through??

It is my understanding that the next time I renew its road tax this means i myself not an MOT tester am saying it is fit to be on the road is this correct?

If the above is true then at the minute it is neither MOT or declared by anyone to be fit to be on the road. Most of what i have found online is not clear about this unless of course Google is not looking in the right place.

Thanks Karl

As I reported in an earlier response my 650SS's MoT ran out on the 1st November but because it was still just current it satisfied the criteria for renewing the historic tax, which started from that date. I expected that when I subsequently checked the MoT status online after this date it would say something like "MoT not required", but in fact it only said "no results returned". To clarify the position I today spoke to the DVSA who confirmed I don't have to do anything and can continue to use the bike and then when the tax falls due again next year, to do this via the Post Office together with the MoT declaration, form V112.

HTH

I've just been to the post office and changed my currently SORNed and un-MOTed Commando to historic tax class and taxed it for 12 months. 

Fortunately I'd previously been through this for a classic car as the initial response was "we can't do that". After some cajoling they found the box to tick on the computer and I left with my free tax. 

I had taken insurance details and a completed V112 but they didn't look at them. 

I'd recommend any one doing this prints the info off the gov.uk website to explain to the post office what they need to do. It's obviously not something they have to do everyday.

Now I just need to get the tank painted and do some getting to get it back in the road after 15 years of resting!

Cheers,

Gary