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Hello To All Members Well You Cannot Stop Member Writing about There Feeling and experiences ,and the Club work's in a democracy and we as member,s are Not beholden too Norton Motorcycle,s or anyone else ,So If you like to stop Members Writing about there Machine Then shut down the hole web site and be done with it and lose every member there is in the club , So Tim I object Too Locking out a Message Board And I will make my objection know at the Next AGM Your Secretary East Yorkshire Branch standing up for Members

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Hello To All Members Well You Cannot Stop Member Writing about There Feeling and experiences ,and the Club work's in a democracy and we as member,s are Not beholden too Norton Motorcycle,s or anyone else ,So If you like to stop Members Writing about there Machine Then shut down the hole web site and be done with it and lose every member there is in the club , So Tim I object Too Locking out a Message Board And I will make my objection know at the Next AGM Your Secretary East Yorkshire Branch standing up for Member

In full agreement with Anna on this.

If issues were found with regard to posting general postings in a technical forum , advise the members. The solution would be to create another forum for genral news and issues relatin to the Commando 961. Don't just delete or remove members postings.......................I pay my membership fee and have taken time to contribute postings which may inform fellow members of my experiences especially with Norton Motorcycle (UK). The club should be acting on the behalf of members who have had difficulties with late or non-delivery of motorcycle orders from Norton (UK).

Some members may have had a great experience with Stuart Garner and Norton (UK) so lets see both sides of the debate. Let members make up ther owns minds about the company.

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Hello To All Members Well You Cannot Stop Member Writing about There Feeling and experiences ,and the Club work's in a democracy and we as member,s are Not beholden too Norton Motorcycle,s or anyone else ,So If you like to stop Members Writing about there Machine Then shut down the hole web site and be done with it and lose every member there is in the club , So Tim I object Too Locking out a Message Board And I will make my objection know at the Next AGM Your Secretary East Yorkshire Branch standing up for Member

In full agreement with Anna on this.

If issues were found with regard to posting general postings in a technical forum , advise the members. The solution would be to create another forum for genral news and issues relatin to the Commando 961. Don't just delete or remove members postings.......................I pay my membership fee and have taken time to contribute postings which may inform fellow members of my experiences especially with Norton Motorcycle (UK). The club should be acting on the behalf of members who have had difficulties with late or non-delivery of motorcycle orders from Norton (UK).

Some members may have had a great experience with Stuart Garner and Norton (UK) so lets see both sides of the debate. Let members make up ther owns minds about the company.

Yes, indeed. Let members share their experiences and let other members judge from those. I think we are all grown ups and can form our own opinions. If a post is not abusive leave well alone.

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Hello To All Members Well You Cannot Stop Member Writing about There Feeling and experiences ,and the Club work's in a democracy and we as member,s are Not beholden too Norton Motorcycle,s or anyone else ,So If you like to stop Members Writing about there Machine Then shut down the hole web site and be done with it and lose every member there is in the club , So Tim I object Too Locking out a Message Board And I will make my objection know at the Next AGM Your Secretary East Yorkshire Branch standing up for Member

In full agreement with Anna on this.forum

If issues were found with regard to posting general postings in a technical forum , advise the members. The solution would be to create another forum for genral news and issues relatin to the Commando 961. Don't just delete or remove members postings.......................I pay my membership fee and have taken time to contribute postings which may inform fellow members of my experiences especially with Norton Motorcycle (UK). The club should be acting on the behalf of members who have had difficulties with late or non-delivery of motorcycle orders from Norton (UK).

Some members may have had a great experience with Stuart Garner and Norton (UK) so lets see both sides of the debate. Let members make up ther owns minds about the company.

Yes, indeed. Let members share their experiences and let other members judge from those. I think we are all grown ups and can form our own opinions. If a post is not abusive leave well alone.

Unfortunately my earlier post has lost large sections of content, which was not abusive in any way removed. The content reflected my experience on a certain " topic". Suggestion|: a non technical Commando "961 Experience" forum so members can express views unedited. I would like to contribute to the technical section of the Commando 961 but unfortunately my Commando 961 sport bike has not arrived!

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Can you please suggest where I can post non technical messages relating to the Commando 961 on N.O.C. website.

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Actually, a Technical Forum for 961's is probably a waste of time. How many of the things actually exist, and how many are owned by NOC members? Too few to generate much input, I would think.

I suspect that there are farmore rotaries out there, and how many technical posts do we see about them?

So, if a Tech Forum isn't used as such, and only positive testimonials about the bikes are allowed, then why bother?

I'll stick to my 850 (and maintain my hankering for a rotary before they are too expensive!)

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Allan,

You won't see many posts about rotaries on here because almost all rotaristas belong to, and post on, the Rotary Owners Club Forum. A much smaller club with no commitee where almost all regular posters actually know each other, have met at some time or other and an occasionaltouch of humour is not unknown in the postings. Moderation of posts is unknown.

Of the thousand or so rotaries made, I believe thare are only 2 - 300 actuallybeing used. Meeting another Interpol 2, Classic or Commander on the road is most unusual so I think my chances of meeting a 961 are as improbable as meeting an F1 Sport.

If you'd like a sorted Commander, how about his one?

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Hi Richard,

Thanks for the info about rotaries. The link you sent shows a nice looking bike - fancy brakes and everything! Is it yours?

Allan.

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Allan,

Yes, and I'd like to sell it to finance the next rotary project.

I'll put some more details on the Rotary page, before someone objects to rotary guff on the 961 argument, sorry I mean discussion,page.

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I posted the original comment regarding the 961's dual seat seeking any knowledge that other members might have on the current status of production or otherwise of the dual seat. I cannot see for the life of me why my original post was removed in the first place. It was, in my opinion, in no way abusive or offensive, I was merely seeking anyone's first hand knowledge of the dual seat. I in no way wish to "down" Stuart Garner or Norton Motorcycles, in fact I sincerely hope they can make a real success of the business and go from strength to strength and make Norton great again. If I wanted Norton Motorcycles to fail, I would hardly have paid my deposit and lodged my order for one!! When I ordered mine, the dual seat was still in its early days with not much information or any indication of when it would be available but I nevertheless put my money down. Surelythis demonstrates my support for the product and my confidence in the company. The reply comments posted to my original post were extremely helpful to me and equally should not have been removed. Is it not a good thing in a club for members to talk to one another and glean any information they can from one another or would you prefer to have an emptysilent 961 forum?

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my last 3 posts have been deleted even though what I said was totally true and on topic. Seems to me that joining the NOC was more of a waste of money than paying in full for a 961 that I haven't had........ yet!I wonder if the attitude of the chairman and moderators would be different if they had put a deposit/full payment down and were still waiting for their 961.
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Hello To All Members Well You Cannot Stop Member Writing about There Feeling and experiences ,and the Club work's in a democracy and we as member,s are Not beholden too Norton Motorcycle,s or anyone else ,So If you like to stop Members Writing about there Machine Then shut down the hole web site and be done with it and lose every member there is in the club , So Tim I object Too Locking out a Message Board And I will make my objection know at the Next AGM Your Secretary East Yorkshire Branch standing up for Member

In full agreement with Anna on this.

If issues were found with regard to posting general postings in a technical forum , advise the members. The solution would be to create another forum for genral news and issues relatin to the Commando 961. Don't just delete or remove members postings.......................I pay my membership fee and have taken time to contribute postings which may inform fellow members of my experiences especially with Norton Motorcycle (UK). The club should be acting on the behalf of members who have had difficulties with late or non-delivery of motorcycle orders from Norton (UK).

Some members may have had a great experience with Stuart Garner and Norton (UK) so lets see both sides of the debate. Let members make up ther owns minds about the company.

Yes, indeed. Let members share their experiences and let other members judge from those. I think we are all grown ups and can form our own opinions. If a post is not abusive leave well alone.

I too fully agree with these comments ! Surely, as chairman of the NOC, Tim Harrison should ensure the club serves it'sMEMBERS best interests, therefore, any members experiences with any company, good or bad, should be allowed free space on this forum & in Roadholder mag. Feedback from previous customers is invaluable when deciding where to spend ones money.Censoring posts relating to members experiences withNorton Motors gives the impresion that Stuart Garner is somehowinfluencing theEC's decision in this matter. Surely a fairer resolution in this case would be to forward all comments to Stuart Garner & allow him to respond to them on the message board (something I beleive he has already been offered the chance to do but so far declined?), this would give him the chance to defend any critisisims & better allay any worries that people may have. Removing posts & locking the topic sends out entirely the wrong message & can only be perceived as hiding the truth &, ultimately, will further damage the companys reputation whilst not enhancing that of the NOC either!

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Dear Tim Gostling,

Whilst I fully agree with you, may I advise that Norton Motors Ltd is one of my companies and has nothing whatsoever to do with Stuart Garner's Norton Motorcycles Ltd or Norton Motorcycle Holdings Ltd.

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Well done Chris Grimmet and Tim Harrison for deflecting the topic of the 961 on to the NOC with your over handed effort to stop people from discussing the topic.

D.B.

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Dear Tim Gostling,

Whilst I fully agree with you, may I advise that Norton Motors Ltd is one of my companies and has nothing whatsoever to do with Stuart Garner's Norton Motorcycles Ltd or Norton Motorcycle Holdings Ltd.

OOPS, Sorry Joe, please excuse the typo, I must have been so outraged at such censorship of the message board that the red mist must have blinded me to my error ! Thanks for the correction.

Regards, Tim

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Hello To All Members Well You Cannot Stop Member Writing about There Feeling and experiences ,and the Club work's in a democracy and we as member,s are Not beholden too Norton Motorcycle,s or anyone else ,So If you like to stop Members Writing about there Machine Then shut down the hole web site and be done with it and lose every member there is in the club , So Tim I object Too Locking out a Message Board And I will make my objection know at the Next AGM Your Secretary East Yorkshire Branch standing up for Members

Hello All Members Well it was Pointless to lock the forum when the CATS out of the bag so to say ! there are Consumer forum's and face book too with the failing's to deliver Norton commando 961 on time. I have rebuilt a old classic Norton with half its parts missing,and now its back too how it was when it left the factory at Bracebridge Street in 1954. Maybe this Thread will be Locked like all the others , Come on Chris leave our threads alone ? as I have said its too late now anyway every one know whats going on ! Yours AJD

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I can certainly understand the frustration of folks who have been waiting a long time for their new commando, after paying their deposits. On the other hand, this message board clearly states : "A technical forum for the Commando 961 range", not a complaint forum about waiting too long for a bike. There are forums online with just that purpose for those interested in posting their grievances. I understand I am only one member & everyone has their own opinion, but if I want to read about the complaints of how long it is taking to produce the new bikes, there are other places for that purpose. I personally would love to have a deposit on a new Commando, but they won't take my money yet, still waiting on United States Government red tape! Aren't Governments grand!

Again, I am sure there are others with a different opinion, &that'sOK, but don't fault the moderator or the chairman for doing exactly what they are suppose to do.

Have a great day!

Skip Brolund

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Totally agree but can understand the frustration of the people waiting for their bikes. I have a 961 Sport which was delivered in March after around 15 months from paying my deposit. I am very pleased with the bike and have had excellent support from the team at Norton, I have covered over 3,000 enjoyablemiles so far.

I joined the NOC as I havea 850 Commando and the site has been very helpful with anytech problems and advice and as Skip said that is what it's about. I got concerned when I read some of the negative comments on hereregarding the 961 delivery etc while I was waiting for the bike and was considering asking for my money back. I'mpleased that I did wait on not listen to the doom and gloom quotes! From what I can see most of the peoplecommenting and starting these discussions do not have a 961 on order or ever intend to own one and would like to see the company fail.

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With respect John, I don't see that ownership, proposed or otherwise of a 916 gives an exclusive right to comment on particular sections of the club forum.

I don't intend to buy a 916 but I do care about the Norton name (which has been dragged through the mud twice since production of the original Commando ceased) and furthermore, I care very much about the reputation of a club that I've been a member of for the best part of thirty years.

It surely cannot be the function of a club which should act on behalf of all members to function as a front for any commercial organisation (and certainly not one that manifestly has problems in more than one area), to the extent that the Executive Committee have decided to censor and remove messages. Whatever next ? Deleting all references to 16Hs being slow to avoid embarrasing those of us who own them ? Denying that the odd Commando has had camshaft trouble ?

I certainly don't wish to see the new company fail but I resent it enormously if the owner has more influence on club affairs than a significant number of long-term fully paid up members.

The integrity of The Club should be paramount here and I'm worried that it is being compromised.

Previously wrote: From what I can see most of the peoplecommenting and starting these discussions do not have a 961 on order or ever intend to own one and would like to see the company fail.

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Hi All! I found this message in the 961 Commando section of this website, thought it might also fit here.

Posted byian_loramat Thursday 14:26

Hi Clive

I have had 2,000 wonderful miles of shear pleasure and grin factor. As was said when I purchased the bike as upgrades come along they would get sorted, the batter never let me down but after an extended time of not using it was a bit laboured but did start. In conversation with the factory whenI asked where the in built charging leades where they said they had upgradedthe batteryand when next in the area would fit one. A few weekes later they phoned to say they were delivering a bike close to me and would pop by and fit. You can't ask for better service than this!

As this is a technical forum and not a bash Stuart Garner (often by manywho have no intention of buying one of his great bikes) I would say that this weekI did have a minor problem which would be helpful for other 961 owners to know about.

Having just had a good 90 mile rideI got home and stopped.WhenI then went to move the bike it turned over fine but would not fire. I could not believe it, soI spoke to Mark Fisher at Norton (super chap and so knowledgeable) He asked me howI start my bike. I said "I turn it on while it is on the side stand" the answer came back straight away, sit on the bike put the side stand up and try and start her. ThisI did and she started first time even though the battery was down with my prior constant trying. Mark said that they had had a problem (once) with the cut out unit on the stand and this had been rectified, he further added that when they were in the area they would pop in and fit a new one.

Hope this is helpful for other 961 owners to know. This is the sort of items we should be posting. Freedom of speach is fine but we should all want the Norton name to continue, the bikes are of super quality and of course we will get problems in the early years but the point is that Stuarts team are sorting out problems, doing upgrades and I could not ask for more.

I think that Tim's move to lock down some of the unhelpful comments was the right decision. It can't be easy at the top. Tim is our chairman and if anyone does not like what he has done then they have the chance to put their name forward to become chairman. I travelled 1000k to attend this years AGM and I liked what Tim said about how he was going to visit all parts of the Norton movement like suppliers and to work closer with them as well as to attend events. This is a man who is committed to our club and I would expect has a far better overview than most of the members. Remember that all retailers need us but we also need themas well, so toannoy them constantly will be of a negative effect and will also leave the club with little or no sway.

Ian

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There would be total censorship if Mr Garner took legal action against the club for comments published in this forum.Regards John.

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Hello to All, I am objecting to a Locked Message Board, And The FREEDOM of speech , This as nothing what so ever too do with, Wanting too see the Norton Motorcycle Factory Fail !, So I am making this Clear ! The East Yorkshire Branch Members are go to the Norton Factory for a visit in 2 weeks time ? Your Anna J Dixon . Secretary East Yorkshire Branch

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I had not read Anna's comments before they were removed so Idon'tknow exactly what was said. I do know the moderator & chairman have aresponsibilityto this club as a whole to moderate this forum so that it remains a positive, accurate, & enjoyable experiencefor all. This is not a public forum per se, as you need to be a member to comment & there are rules in place on decorum here. This particular post "COMANDO 961" is listed as "A technical forum for the Commando 961 range", and as such is for people to comment on technical matters on the 961 Commando. When someone complains for the sake of complaining, or ishurtfulin their comments, itdoesn'tserve the club, its membership, or its reputation as a whole. No one is stopping a 961 owner from commenting on a problem with his bike, & Idon'tbelieveanyone had been censored from telling how long of a delay there has been in getting his new 961. But for someone who has repeatedly bashed the thew commando & then add morederogatorycomments to fuel the fire on a bike that person has nointentionof owning is not onlymaliciousin nature , buthurtful&disrespectfulto the current 961 owners & I applaud Chris & Tim for having the balls to make the hard decision and do whats right for the club. I for one would like to see a section showing the top 10 members who have had their comments "moderated", I think we all know who #1 would be.

As to the new 961 Commando, I love the new bike for what it is, a modern motorcycle with a rich history. It is not a 1972 Commando & will never be one (good, bad, or indifferent). I hope the new Norton Company issuccessfulselling the new bikes, I for one would love to own one, as well as a gaggle of old bikes! All of the Nortons (new & old) are special in their own way & can be appreciated for what they are.In a bike race, the 961 would chew up & spit out a Manxman, but thatdoesn'tmean the 961 is a better bike, or that the Manxman is a bad bike, they are both entirely different bike with their own good & bad points & cant really be compared to each other other than their lineage.

Has anyone considered the financial gamble Mr. Garner has taken on? With a company that has failed repeatedly? I for one am proud that he has chose to invest his time &moneyto such a Noble Company & wish him all the best. I am sure he wants to see all theback ordersfilled asap, as long delaysdon'tlook good for the company, but obviously there are some delays & I hope for the owners waiting, that they gettheirbikes soon!

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I had not read Anna's comments before they were removed so Idon'tknow exactly what was said. I do know the moderator & chairman have aresponsibilityto this club as a whole to moderate this forum so that it remains a positive, accurate, & enjoyable experiencefor all. This is not a public forum per se, as you need to be a member to comment & there are rules in place on decorum here. This particular post "COMANDO 961" is listed as "A technical forum for the Commando 961 range", and as such is for people to comment on technical matters on the 961 Commando. When someone complains for the sake of complaining, or ishurtfulin their comments, itdoesn'tserve the club, its membership, or its reputation as a whole. No one is stopping a 961 owner from commenting on a problem with his bike, & Idon'tbelieveanyone had been censored from telling how long of a delay there has been in getting his new 961. But for someone who has repeatedly bashed the thew commando & then add morederogatorycomments to fuel the fire on a bike that person has nointentionof owning is not onlymaliciousin nature , buthurtful&disrespectfulto the current 961 owners & I applaud Chris & Tim for having the balls to make the hard decision and do whats right for the club. I for one would like to see a section showing the top 10 members who have had their comments "moderated", I think we all know who #1 would be.

As to the new 961 Commando, I love the new bike for what it is, a modern motorcycle with a rich history. It is not a 1972 Commando & will never be one (good, bad, or indifferent). I hope the new Norton Company issuccessfulselling the new bikes, I for one would love to own one, as well as a gaggle of old bikes! All of the Nortons (new & old) are special in their own way & can be appreciated for what they are.In a bike race, the 961 would chew up & spit out a Manxman, but thatdoesn'tmean the 961 is a better bike, or that the Manxman is a bad bike, they are both entirely different bike with their own good & bad points & cant really be compared to each other other than their lineage.

Has anyone considered the financial gamble Mr. Garner has taken on? With a company that has failed repeatedly? I for one am proud that he has chose to invest his time &moneyto such a Noble Company & wish him all the best. I am sure he wants to see all theback ordersfilled asap, as long delaysdon'tlook good for the company, but obviously there are some delays & I hope for the owners waiting, that they gettheirbikes soon!

Hello, I have not made any comments ,At all before the message board was locked , and I think you need to read my threads with your glasses on ?

A 50 year old Manxman tops 118 Mph, and back in 1962 at Thruxton 24 hr race and top speed of over 140 mph And this is fact, it now history ,And in 1960 Norton Manxman had the new style Engine that was designed by Doug Hele and Over seen By Burt Hopwood , Then in 1962 it was Bored out too a 750 for the Atlas and Later the Commando , then this same Engine is then redesigned for The 961 , So its a Engine Design that As served Norton Motorcycles Well, for over 60 years , And This Thread was not about Motorcycles Away ! it was about Freedom of your key board And putting down your experiences,On the Norton Owners Club Message board With out any one Altering it or Locking it out Yours Anna J

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I had not read Anna's comments before they were removed so Idon'tknow exactly what was said. I do know the moderator & chairman have aresponsibilityto this club as a whole to moderate this forum so that it remains a positive, accurate, & enjoyable experiencefor all. This is not a public forum per se, as you need to be a member to comment & there are rules in place on decorum here. This particular post "COMANDO 961" is listed as "A technical forum for the Commando 961 range", and as such is for people to comment on technical matters on the 961 Commando. When someone complains for the sake of complaining, or ishurtfulin their comments, itdoesn'tserve the club, its membership, or its reputation as a whole. No one is stopping a 961 owner from commenting on a problem with his bike, & Idon'tbelieveanyone had been censored from telling how long of a delay there has been in getting his new 961. But for someone who has repeatedly bashed the thew commando & then add morederogatorycomments to fuel the fire on a bike that person has nointentionof owning is not onlymaliciousin nature , buthurtful&disrespectfulto the current 961 owners & I applaud Chris & Tim for having the balls to make the hard decision and do whats right for the club. I for one would like to see a section showing the top 10 members who have had their comments "moderated", I think we all know who #1 would be.

As to the new 961 Commando, I love the new bike for what it is, a modern motorcycle with a rich history. It is not a 1972 Commando & will never be one (good, bad, or indifferent). I hope the new Norton Company issuccessfulselling the new bikes, I for one would love to own one, as well as a gaggle of old bikes! All of the Nortons (new & old) are special in their own way & can be appreciated for what they are.In a bike race, the 961 would chew up & spit out a Manxman, but thatdoesn'tmean the 961 is a better bike, or that the Manxman is a bad bike, they are both entirely different bike with their own good & bad points & cant really be compared to each other other than their lineage.

Has anyone considered the financial gamble Mr. Garner has taken on? With a company that has failed repeatedly? I for one am proud that he has chose to invest his time &moneyto such a Noble Company & wish him all the best. I am sure he wants to see all theback ordersfilled asap, as long delaysdon'tlook good for the company, but obviously there are some delays & I hope for the owners waiting, that they gettheirbikes soon!

Hello, I have not made any comments ,At all before the message board was locked , and I think you need to read my threads with your glasses on ?

A 50 year old Manxman tops 118 Mph, and back in 1962 at Thruxton 24 hr race and top speed of over 140 mph And this is fact, it now history ,And in 1960 Norton Manxman had the new style Engine that was designed by Doug Hele and Over seen By Burt Hopwood , Then in 1962 it was Bored out too a 750 for the Atlas and Later the Commando , then this same Engine is then redesigned for The 961 , So its a Engine Design that As served Norton Motorcycles Well, for over 60 years , And This Thread was not about Motorcycles Away ! it was about Freedom of your key board And putting down your experiences,On the Norton Owners Club Message board With out any one Altering it or Locking it out Yours Anna J

Anna,

youapparentlydidn't read my post, please read it, slowly & think about it before you comment. Also, why do you insist on putting question marks (?) in place ofexclamationpoints (!), it makes you posts difficult, if .

You have made more than one derogatory comment on the 961 & the new Norton Motors (please read your own posts!) As to me wearing my glasses (which I need to remove when reading, duh) Perhaps if you were not illiterate & knew how to read & writeEnglishwith proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation we might be able to understand what you mean. I don't think its too much to ask to either buyspell checkfor your home computer or open a dictionary before posting.

My original post comparing a Manxman to a 961 was to show the difference in 2 great bikes (in case you forgot, this is a post about the 961) & yes the 961 is faster than the Manxman (DUH). As to you getting locked out, gee I wonder why that happens, just read your previous post!

Youdon'town a 961, you never will, why are you even posting here? If you cant say something constructive, please keep it to yourself, it ruins this site & the clubs. Its really too bad, sometimes you seem coherent & havehelpfulinfo, I just don't understand how or why you go off on people for no reason?

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree........................

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OK guys, this is getting rather silly now, as has been said, this is a technical forum for the 961 Commando, not somewhere to trade personal insults ! Eugine, ok, AJD's grammar & spelling is not the best but I'm sure you can get the gist of her threads & before you critisise too much perhaps you should check out some other posts on here, they're littered with incorect spelling & grammar, mine & yours included, just re read your last post !We're none of us perfect.

You say in your post "Idon'tbelieveanyone had been censored from telling how long of a delay there has been in getting his new 961." These are exactly the posts that have been removed & locked & I beleive this is what Anna is objecting to. I accept they do not qualify as 'technical' but it's difficult to report on technical issues when you are still waiting for your bike ! I stand by what I said in an earlier post in that as chairman of the NOC Tim Harrison should ensure the club serves it'sMEMBERS best interests, not those of an outside agency, no matter who or what they are & if members are experiancing problems with any company I don't think it's unreasonable toair these via this message board, after all, there was alot of spares supplier bashing not so long ago & nobody felt the need to lock that topic down or ban their publication in Roadholder. Where's the difference ? why does Stuart Garner have more influance over this than Les Emery or Angla Hemmings etc or, indeed, the many paid up members who's posts have been removed. I, for one certainly do not want to see Norton motorcycles fail, quite the reverse, & wish them every success, I just feel all this sends out the wrong message, Freedom to report on ones experiance's should be paramount, good & bad. Let's have more positive reports from those who have their 961's, there must be more of them out there than we've heard about on here ? That may help redress the ballance.

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Tim,

I agree, we have beat this dead horse enough. We have heard from some 961 owners who have said wonderful things about their new bikes, Ihaven'theard too many bad things so far & it seems that the few minor problems were addressed & fixed to the customers satisfaction. As you said, it would be nice to hear from more new owners about their thoughts o the bike. I wonder how many of them are members of this club?

I enjoy hearing about othersexperiences about all things Norton, just hope we get more facts, less hot air.

Hopefully Norton gets through all of the governments red tape over here in the USA so we can start ordering over here! Who knows how it will turn out, but we have a much larger market over here than in the UK, perhaps once the flood gates open up over here, there will be enough new sales to help get production up to speed.

Skip Brolund

'57 Model 77

'50 Model 7

Skip

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Tim,

I agree, we have beat this dead horse enough. We have heard from some 961 owners who have said wonderful things about their new bikes, Ihaven'theard too many bad things so far & it seems that the few minor problems were addressed & fixed to the customers satisfaction. As you said, it would be nice to hear from more new owners about their thoughts o the bike. I wonder how many of them are members of this club?

I enjoy hearing about othersexperiences about all things Norton, just hope we get more facts, less hot air.

Hopefully Norton gets through all of the governments red tape over here in the USA so we can start ordering over here! Who knows how it will turn out, but we have a much larger market over here than in the UK, perhaps once the flood gates open up over here, there will be enough new sales to help get production up to speed.

Skip Brolund

'57 Model 77

'50 Model 7

Skip

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