The Norton Manxman Register

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Anna , I also have an original Manxman tank in the correct color blue (never painted - new old stock). somewhere have a paint mixture that another restorer gave me, but never had it mixed to see if it was the same. Manxmans had chrome fenders so i dont understand getting the color off a fender?

Hello steven the colour was of a Norton Navigator 350twin 1962 as Norton paint them Polychromatic blue and dove gray too and also in 1962 only the Norton 650 stanard was in black frame and cycle parts with polychromatic blue tank 3-1/2 gallons , the mudguard was raped in factory paper and not been in the sun there paint loses its true colour we offed it up to my head lamp shell as removed the rim and lens, To my amazement it was the same shadeand colour but I had used Lotus Pacific blue over a gold base and laquered it in thin coats so how good was that then ? spot on ?? not bad for a female ? EEH ? se-thei! lad ??

a bit of yorkshire talk ? Yours Anna J Dixon

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Anna , I also have an original Manxman tank in the correct color blue (never painted - new old stock). somewhere have a paint mixture that another restorer gave me, but never had it mixed to see if it was the same. Manxmans had chrome fenders so i dont understand getting the color off a fender?

Hello steven if you"ed like to phone Me my number"s 01430 430831 or our forum at http://grou.ps/noc heres pic for you

Hello steven I know the blue paint scheme was an issue with some riders my one was in black when I bought It and was regsitiered 1962 witch was wrong ,As it was sent too the USA january 13th 1961 and we now know it was built in the dieing days of 1960 , I think that these Norton Manxman's as been over looked by all and they turn out to be a very good bike too ride I just love my one with its 2.1/2 gallon tank and brite red seat and it just sails round corners like they was not there at all ? and a nice riding stans for me,??As I am 6 foot tall ,But with out this bikes development there be no 650ss or Atlas Or Commando ? I seems to me because lots of rides missed out on the Manxman no one was intrested ? now 50 years on we are now find out about the Norton that was Miss On and how really Good These Bike whore , more infomation is needed ?? Your Anna J Dixon Keeping History alive ?? phone 01430430831 or email annajeannette@btinternet.com

hello too all at know of one Norton Manxman that will not be taken down the road for a nice ride as it been chopped up for scrap 18-97888 rest in peace ? Anna J Dixon

Hello all NOCers Norton Manxman owners wanted for my regsiter and maybe the NEC in November Contact me Anna J Dixon Secretary East yorkshire branch on 01430 430831 or email annajeannette@btinternet.com

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Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hello all NOCers I Have Now been in touch with Norton Owner In New York State Looking forward for some more info on these Icoic Motorcycles The 5oTh anniversary Of The Norton Manxman Is This Year In November So I hope we can get a show together of All the 1960s Norton twins and singles let say from 1960 to 1962 models the Glam years for Norton

Previously wrote:

Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hello NOCers As a mater of intersrest I have a Parts Numbers manual for the Norton Manxman 650 dated November 20th 1960 the Book is from the USA By The Berliner Motor Corp , N.J and contanes all the part numbers for the Norton Manxman 650 and prices list in $ dollores eg : part numbers 23174 and 23437 righthand and lefthand silencers now very hard to find ??

Yours Anna J Dixon

Would All Owners Of Norton 650 Manxman Register there machines on the page engine and frame numbers only NO Motorcycle Registration All INFORMATION is looked after Yours

Anna J Dixon

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Previously wrote:

Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

My rear guard is stainless steel , wide with shallow sides, is this manxman please ?

hello!!! In a Word NO !!! Is A Patent OnE Yours AnnA J Dixon

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Currently I have a 1961 Norton Manxman which has the matching engine and frame numbers of 93603. It is currently needing restoration and is in a basket. Factory records show it to be the third Manxman built, and thus the third Norton 650 made also. It was of a batch of the first twenty shipped to U.S. distributor Berliner. It's engine is stamped with the production number "2".

I used to have another Norton Manxman that I rode for years but sold a while back, it was also in the 936xx number range, a friend of my father's bought it new in April 1961.

I have a handful of extra Manxman engines with numbers ranging from 93xxx through 95xxx.

A lot of people get the Manxman and the 650ss bikes confused with each other, but there is a simple way to tell them apart. Around back of the engine cases by the breather exit 650 Manxman bikes will be stamped with a "65" or "65C", where any 1962 650ss bike will be plainly stamped "650ss" in the same area. I have a 62' 650ss bike and also a 62' 88ss bike I can look at directly, and I have seen a number of Manxman, 650ss and 88ss crankcases from 1961 through 1962 that all met this criteria.

Though the Manxman bikes were being built at the Norton factory in late 1960, they were a 1961 model for sure and advertised as such. I talked with a former employee of the Norton experimental department and he said that they were in a big hurry to get the Manxman finished and to the U.S. distributor for the beginning of the 1961 model year. They could not wait for a regular supplier to provide exhaust system parts by that time so they took matters into their own hands and made them right in-house at the Norton works, thus the exhaust and mufflers that were unique to the blue American speck Manxman, the mufflers having a horizontal seam on the outside. The right exhaust pipe had a kink inward in it at the level where the tachometer cable would pass by it if fitted. Later Norton dominators did not have this kink and the cable rested much more forcefully against the pipe!

My factory original early 1961 Manxman was completely blue except for the rear tailight/numberplate holder which was black, and this anomaly can be seen in early sales literature for the bikes.

The Manxman had small 376 dual Amal carburetors of 1 1/16" bore. There were steel sleeves pressed into the intake ports of the cylinder head on them to reduce the intake port to the size of the carburetors. This setup gives fabulous torque in the low and mid-range of operation. I pulled the sleeves out of my Manxman once and it destroyed the torque qualities that the engine had as-built, so I put them right back in and enjoyed it as is.

Apart from the cosmetic differences, the Manxman is basically a 650ss, it's engine is to SS specification having 9:1 compression and dual carburetors. Some books etc. say the Manxman had 8.3 compression and list 9:1 for the 650ss bikes, but I have personally dismantled original, standard-bore Manxman and early 650ss engines and all the parts are identical, so there is an error there. Probably the factory thought about 8.3:1 in pre-production and settled on something else.

Some of the very late blue American Norton Manxman bikes did come through with black seats instead of red ones. The Norton dealer for them in Atlanta, Georgia who is a Manxman owner himself saying they received these black upholstered Manxmans later on. The first 650ss and Norton 750cc Atlas bikes sold in the United States had the small tank and complimenting body parts of the Norton Manxman but where all black with black seats and silver tanks.

Another unique feature of the early 650 Manxman that was not on the 1962 650ss bikes, was that the Manxman had an additional breather installed on the rear tappet cover. It was incorporated into the hold-down bolt with a special banjo fitting. This breather and the rear crankcase breather were both routed straight downward in black rubber tubing onto the ground in front of the rear tire! Which I first became aware of when my Manxman went sideways around a highway on-ramp. I quickly re-routed it back along the fender to empty BEHIND the rear tire.

Thanks for your time.

Hello Ben I have Number 95069 norton workshop number 288 built 28 december 1960 shipped to New York on 13 january 1961 along with 350 machines ,it as spent 38 years in the USA Now back in The UK Yorkshire rebuilt by a woman thats me Anna J Dixon but I would like to buya pair of origanal muffler if you know where there is some for sale , And I would be interstead in more information on this iconic motorcycle THE Norton Manxman 650 will be50 years old and littel is written about it ,And I would be interstead in the engine & frame Numbers of Your Machines for my Norton Manxman redgister if you please ! Phone 01430 430 831 any time Yours Anna J Dixon Secretary East Yorkshire Branch

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Would All Owners Of Norton 650 Manxman Register there machines on the page engine and frame numbers only NO Motorcycle Registration All INFORMATION is looked after Yours

Anna J Dixon

hello to all interstead partys the First Norton Manxman to be built was on November 7th 1960 engine&frame Number 18-93601 on the front left hand side of the crankcases,and stamped above the brether was. 001.65

65 0R 65C means 650 001 Means the first machine and was numbers follow on from there Like My Machine is Number 288 so that 18-95xxx .65C.288 . Yours Anna J Dixon Registration keeper all engine & frame numbers are kept confessional Yours Anna J Dixon Secretary East Yorkshire Branch Phone 01430430831 any time after 6pm or Email annajeannette@btinternet.com

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Currently I have a 1961 Norton Manxman which has the matching engine and frame numbers of 93603. It is currently needing restoration and is in a basket. Factory records show it to be the third Manxman built, and thus the third Norton 650 made also. It was of a batch of the first twenty shipped to U.S. distributor Berliner. It's engine is stamped with the production number "2".

I used to have another Norton Manxman that I rode for years but sold a while back, it was also in the 936xx number range, a friend of my father's bought it new in April 1961.

I have a handful of extra Manxman engines with numbers ranging from 93xxx through 95xxx.

A lot of people get the Manxman and the 650ss bikes confused with each other, but there is a simple way to tell them apart. Around back of the engine cases by the breather exit 650 Manxman bikes will be stamped with a "65" or "65C", where any 1962 650ss bike will be plainly stamped "650ss" in the same area. I have a 62' 650ss bike and also a 62' 88ss bike I can look at directly, and I have seen a number of Manxman, 650ss and 88ss crankcases from 1961 through 1962 that all met this criteria.

Though the Manxman bikes were being built at the Norton factory in late 1960, they were a 1961 model for sure and advertised as such. I talked with a former employee of the Norton experimental department and he said that they were in a big hurry to get the Manxman finished and to the U.S. distributor for the beginning of the 1961 model year. They could not wait for a regular supplier to provide exhaust system parts by that time so they took matters into their own hands and made them right in-house at the Norton works, thus the exhaust and mufflers that were unique to the blue American speck Manxman, the mufflers having a horizontal seam on the outside. The right exhaust pipe had a kink inward in it at the level where the tachometer cable would pass by it if fitted. Later Norton dominators did not have this kink and the cable rested much more forcefully against the pipe!

My factory original early 1961 Manxman was completely blue except for the rear tailight/numberplate holder which was black, and this anomaly can be seen in early sales literature for the bikes.

The Manxman had small 376 dual Amal carburetors of 1 1/16" bore. There were steel sleeves pressed into the intake ports of the cylinder head on them to reduce the intake port to the size of the carburetors. This setup gives fabulous torque in the low and mid-range of operation. I pulled the sleeves out of my Manxman once and it destroyed the torque qualities that the engine had as-built, so I put them right back in and enjoyed it as is.

Apart from the cosmetic differences, the Manxman is basically a 650ss, it's engine is to SS specification having 9:1 compression and dual carburetors. Some books etc. say the Manxman had 8.3 compression and list 9:1 for the 650ss bikes, but I have personally dismantled original, standard-bore Manxman and early 650ss engines and all the parts are identical, so there is an error there. Probably the factory thought about 8.3:1 in pre-production and settled on something else.

Some of the very late blue American Norton Manxman bikes did come through with black seats instead of red ones. The Norton dealer for them in Atlanta, Georgia who is a Manxman owner himself saying they received these black upholstered Manxmans later on. The first 650ss and Norton 750cc Atlas bikes sold in the United States had the small tank and complimenting body parts of the Norton Manxman but where all black with black seats and silver tanks.

Another unique feature of the early 650 Manxman that was not on the 1962 650ss bikes, was that the Manxman had an additional breather installed on the rear tappet cover. It was incorporated into the hold-down bolt with a special banjo fitting. This breather and the rear crankcase breather were both routed straight downward in black rubber tubing onto the ground in front of the rear tire! Which I first became aware of when my Manxman went sideways around a highway on-ramp. I quickly re-routed it back along the fender to empty BEHIND the rear tire.

Thanks for your time.

helo ben You not been writing to us ,Well As for your norton manxman its number 002.65 18-96303 was built on november 7th 1960 with the frist one and 30 other machines on that day ,My one is number 288.65C 18-950xx built on december 28th 1960 dispached on the 13th january 1961 shipped to New York ? and it spent 38 years in the USA Before being shipped back tothe UK october 1998 for there is was regsitiered in the UK 1998 with age related number ,Yours Anna J Dixon Ps Still loking for some muffers for it?

hello paul yes I think I will take all the engine and frame number to a priest ? he may bless them ? and learn me how to spell ? Yours Anna J Dixon

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Hello steven I know the blue paint scheme was an issue with some riders my one was in black when I bought It and was regsitiered 1962 witch was wrong ,As it was sent too the USA january 13th 1961 and we now know it was built in the dieing days of 1960 , I think that these Norton Manxman's as been over looked by all and they turn out to be a very good bike too ride I just love my one with its 2.1/2 gallon tank and brite red seat and it just sails round corners like they was not there at all ? and a nice riding stans for me,??As I am 6 foot tall ,But with out this bikes development there be no 650ss or Atlas Or Commando ? I seems to me because lots of rides missed out on the Manxman no one was intrested ? now 50 years on we are now find out about the Norton that was Miss On and how really Good These Bike whore , more infomation is needed ?? Your Anna J Dixon Keeping History alive ?? phone 01430430831 or email annajeannette@btinternet.com

hello to all aother norton manxman is alive and keeping warm in Anders Larsson Nice Big Workshop with some 8 othe norton motorcycles too keep it company ? and its one of 25 sent too Swenden And it all as it was when New ? and it a red seat with white piping ? So what I was told was the wrong information ,I was told that thay did not have the white piping round the seat ? yours anna j dixon

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Previously wrote:

Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hello NOCers As a mater of intersrest I have a Parts Numbers manual for the Norton Manxman 650 dated November 20th 1960 the Book is from the USA By The Berliner Motor Corp , N.J and contanes all the part numbers for the Norton Manxman 650 and prices list in $ dollores eg : part numbers 23174 and 23437 righthand and lefthand silencers now very hard to find ??

Yours Anna j Dixon

Hell To All Nocers I have Now Got Hold Of Two Silencers Parts Numbers 23174 and 23437 ??

And all two more Norton Manxmans In Sweden ?? yours anna j

Previously wrote:

Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hello all just lately Norton Manxman Motorcycle's Have been coming out of the woodwork, I just had 3 mails from owners Telling me about there machines ? keep it up Lads We may find all of them yet ? And some of these bikes Maybe for Sale I keep you posted If any one maybe interested in buying one ? yours AJD

Previously wrote:

Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hello to all Now we have Dates from Norton Factory records , thank to Christ Streather And Dave Catton and there Team They have done all the research many thanks to them , I can now Tell you the was 654 Machine built from November 7th 1960 to September 1961 All Manxman's where Stamp marked 65 or 65C and them the workshop number start at 1 the very first machine was pulled from the line and stamp marked later with workshop number 7 it has engine and frame Number 18-93601 there were 30 machines built on that same day from 18-93602 to 18-93629 so there we have it Yours Anna J Dixon

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This may not be the last word on this subject. First of all you have to define what you consider a "Manxman". There may have been 654 650cc Norton motorcycles made from November 60' through September 61', but they were not all USA spec machines with blue paint, small tanks and "cowhorn" handlebars. I sent the numbers from a Norton that was stamped "650ss" on the crankcases and had an engine production number in the 500 range to Mr. Catton and he said it was not marked as a 650ss in the factory record, so the factory was making entries in the records of Model 18 Nortons and not marking down what model or specification they were built to.

I am sure there may have been 654 650cc Norton motorcycles built by the end of September 1961, but this included all models of 650cc Nortons including the SS, Standard, Deluxe and machines painted blue etc. to appeal to the American "Cowboys".

Factory records and notes and comments made by former Norton employees such as John Hudson and Peter Roydhouse, along with what is cast, stamped and machined into hard vintage Norton parts are going to provide information that can be interpreted with common sense and intelligence by some, or that can be "Twisted" and Spun to back up and embellish the wishes and fantasies that certain interpreters want to hear, and the latter happens much more often than the former unfortunately......

Hello Ben this number is for Manxman Only The 650ss came after September 61 as did the Standard and de-lux machines There was some 50 650s sent in 1966 as model 99 now this got me scratching my head here Can you put any more light on this ! Yours AJD

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Anna: If according to you the last Manxman engine has a build number of 654, and there is a 650ss with an engine build number in the 500 range, then that throws your theory in the trash bin. Those first 654 Model 18 650cc Norton Dominators were not all blue USA Manxmans, and apparently some 650ss bikes were not marked as "650ss" in the factory record.

And if that is the case, you simply can not do what you and your friends have done, which is look at the production of all 650cc Dominators before the first notation of one in the factory records and ASSUME what all 650cc machines previous to that mark were.

YOU and a few others here are champions at pronouncing assumptions and guesswork as facts.

I stand behind what I said in my last paragraph. There was a 650ss with a serial number in the 995xx range with an engine stamped "650ss" and a engine build number in the 500s that was not recorded as a 650ss in the factory records, and if there was one, then there easily could have been more than one, and that makes your statement null and void.

Hello Ben the manxman model were marked with the number 65 or 65C being custom type Machines The 650SS Sports Machines 650 stamp mark Standard Machines ,most of these sent to the EU , 18D De-notes 650 De-lux Machines the 650SS Standard and De-Lux models came in around late August to early September 1961

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Anna: If according to you the last Manxman engine has a build number of 654, and there is a 650ss with an engine build number in the 500 range, then that throws your theory in the trash bin. Those first 654 Model 18 650cc Norton Dominators were not all blue USA Manxmans, and apparently some 650ss bikes were not marked as "650ss" in the factory record.

And if that is the case, you simply can not do what you and your friends have done, which is look at the production of all 650cc Dominators before the first notation of one in the factory records and ASSUME what all 650cc machines previous to that mark were.

YOU and a few others here are champions at pronouncing assumptions and guesswork as facts.

I stand behind what I said in my last paragraph. There was a 650ss with a serial number in the 995xx range with an engine stamped "650ss" and a engine build number in the 500s that was not recorded as a 650ss in the factory records, and if there was one, then there easily could have been more than one, and that makes your statement null and void.

Hello Ben Yes This maybe But this was Stamp marked by Berliner motors Not at Bracebridge street works , this was done As customers Wanted A Sports model Not a Custom Type Machine These where striped and repainted black and sliver Or as the Customer wanted it , then the number noted and marked accordingly . some records could of been lost in transit, its Now 52 years sines this all came about and thing get lost in time this is why I am try to make sense of it all wile there is time, So some help with this would be appreciated As I know you father owned a motorcycle shop and you have some great knowledge on these Norton machines ,I have had Norton Motorcycles for 40 year up to now , Yours AJD

Hello Ben the manxman model were marked with the number 65 or 65C being custom type Machines The 650SS Sports Machines 650 stamp mark Standard Machines ,most of these sent to the EU , 18D De-notes 650 De-lux Machines the 650SS Standard and De-Lux models came in around late August to early September 1961

Hello I add That EU meaning Europe Is this Ok with every one Now !

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Anna: If according to you the last Manxman engine has a build number of 654, and there is a 650ss with an engine build number in the 500 range, then that throws your theory in the trash bin. Those first 654 Model 18 650cc Norton Dominators were not all blue USA Manxmans, and apparently some 650ss bikes were not marked as "650ss" in the factory record.

And if that is the case, you simply can not do what you and your friends have done, which is look at the production of all 650cc Dominators before the first notation of one in the factory records and ASSUME what all 650cc machines previous to that mark were.

YOU and a few others here are champions at pronouncing assumptions and guesswork as facts.

I stand behind what I said in my last paragraph. There was a 650ss with a serial number in the 995xx range with an engine stamped "650ss" and a engine build number in the 500s that was not recorded as a 650ss in the factory records, and if there was one, then there easily could have been more than one, and that makes your statement null and void.

Hello Ben Yes This maybe But this was Stamp marked by Berliner motors Not at Bracebridge street works , this was done As customers Wanted A Sports model Not a Custom Type Machine These where striped and repainted black and sliver Or as the Customer wanted it , then the number noted and marked accordingly . some records could of been lost in transit, its Now 52 years sinces this all came about and thing get lost in time this is why I am try to make sense of it all wile there is time, So some help with this would be appreciated As I know you father owned a motorcycle shop and you have some great knowledge on these Norton machines ,I have had Norton Motorcycles for 40 year up to now , Yours AJD

Hello Ben the manxman model were marked with the number 65 or 65C being custom type Machines The 650SS Sports Machines 650 stamp mark Standard Machines ,most of these sent to the EU , 18D De-notes 650 De-lux Machines the 650SS Standard and De-Lux models came in around late August to early September 1961

Hello I add That EU meaning Europe Is this Ok with every one Now !

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I have Manxman no. 94507. It is now a cafe racer with rear sets, clip-ons, 5 gallon racing tank, racing style seat, alloy rims and Commando front disk brake. Not at all original, but still a Manxman

Hello Colin Yes Its A manxman and very interesting ,And the Oldest in the UK to date Your machine was built around late November 1960 ,Can you tell Me more about your motorcycle , my email Is annajeannette@btinternet.com

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Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hi Anna

For your register Manxman # 18-97921

Geoff

USA in PA

Hello Buy you got a real bargain with this machine.I was watching , The paint work look as if it was a plain blue and not metallic polychromatic blue , it hard to get the colour right on these bikes but I have all the info and the technique off spraying them , Well We have the engine and frame number all I need it the workshop number thats at the back of the crankcase left hand just above the breath pipe , there should a 65 or 65C stamped there and then the workshop number I keep the records just in case someone decides to steel one . there was only 665 ever built , yours was built late May 1961 . Not 1962 AS the Ebay add said , So you are now the proud owner of a very Rare Norton Manxman 650 So ride with care you do not get these bikes of the shelf every day. and you have the wrong silencers on . The Manxman Had its own pair And there like rocking horse xxxx too get hold of So I say again happy riding Yours Anna J Dixon My email annajeannette@btinternet.com

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Previously wrote:

Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hi Anna

For your register Manxman # 18-97921

Geoff

USA in PA

Hello Buy you got a real bargain with this machine.I was watching , The paint work look as if it was a plain blue and not metallic polychromatic blue , it hard to get the colour right on these bikes but I have all the info and the technique off spraying them , Well We have the engine and frame number all I need it the workshop number thats at the back of the crankcase left hand just above the breath pipe , there should a 65 or 65C stamped there and then the workshop number I keep the records just in case someone decides to steel one . there was only 665 ever built , yours was built late May 1961 . Not 1962 AS the Ebay add said , So you are now the proud owner of a very Rare Norton Manxman 650 So ride with care you do not get these bikes of the shelf every day. and you have the wrong silencers on . The Manxman Had its own pair And there like rocking horse xxxx too get hold of So I say again happy riding Yours Anna J Dixon My email annajeannette@btinternet.com

Thanks Anna

The number on thr crancase is 65 their is second number bellow it 494.

Not sure about the paint in real life it is a metalic blue with 3000 milesit looks originallike it was kept in some ones front room for a while and not riden much.

The tyres are being replaced this week so I can take it out on the road, always liked the featherbed and roaholders with good brakes it will be nice to ride one again ( miss the lakes and dales ).

Did all the Manxman bikes have the strange silencers.

Their is a oil fillter in the tool tray a pipe comes from the engine return to the filter in the tool tray and back to the oil tank ( strange ).

Thanks Geoff

Hello Geoff Keep in touch with me I know were there is 3 more manxman;s for sale but there in boxes with all parts there all 3 were built in the first week of production and there is a full spare motor 18-95888

and these guys may have the right silencers .I have them on my bike 18-95069 , I am look for some small parts of my one And I have and Parts Manual as These Machines had there own parts Manual , If your paint work is metallic then theres a good chance is Original paint work , is hard to match you need a experienced paint guy he will know how to match the paint work As for tyres I have fitted a Dunlop Goldseal K70 as these tyres do not have a squire tyre profile there rounded so when you bank over the bike goes over nicely the Avon tyres are OK but the rear Speedmasters have a Squire tyre profile as your going round fast corner you can feel the back tyre on its edge , Avon Venrons are better than the Speedmasters ,I had my back tyre for 6 years now and still no ware , I have a Avon Speedmaster Ribbed on the front , its OK , I have A friend in Sweden he has two Manxman He says there Great Bikes to ride , There are and there real Head turners too , So ride with Care Your Machine is a peace of History and cannot be replaced , Yours Anna J welcome to our Club

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My thought is that the Manxmen in the U.K. were re-imported during the last 30 years. Living in America, as I have for the last 24 years, I know that some Americans were turning a good profit by buying up Brit bikes and exporting them back to the U.K. where they fetched higher prices.

Hello To-date my records show there are about 12 in the UK and 26 world wide , thats come to light , and as you may know there were only 665 ever built , So Roy bacon's Book is wrong saying they sent large numbers to the USA And There Are No De-lux Manxmans with de-lux paneling fitted to the side of the machine , 52 years have gone by and there will be Not many left by now , So there Extremely Rare Machines . Its Only Me Thats Done any real Re search On them And it was Me that brought These Machine to light . And I am Still that it , And I will go on hammering away to get These Machines The recognition they deserve. These Machines were The First stepping stone Since The Model 7. They were from , The development of The DomiRacers , developed by Doug Hele,,, In my book the best of the Norton Twins

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My thought is that the Manxmen in the U.K. were re-imported during the last 30 years. Living in America, as I have for the last 24 years, I know that some Americans were turning a good profit by buying up Brit bikes and exporting them back to the U.K. where they fetched higher prices.

Hello To-date my records show there are about 12 in the UK and 26 world wide , thats come to light , and as you may know there were only 665 ever built , So Roy bacon's Book is wrong saying they sent large numbers to the USA And There Are No De-lux Manxmans with de-lux paneling fitted to the side of the machine , 52 years have gone by and there will be Not many left by now , So there Extremely Rare Machines . Its Only Me Thats Done any real Re search On them And it was Me that brought These Machine to light . And I am Still that it , And I will go on hammering away to get These Machines The recognition they deserve. These Machines were The First stepping stone Since The Model 7. They were from , The development of The DomiRacers , developed by Doug Hele,,, In my book the best of the Norton Twins

Hello Anna,

I have written to you before about my Manxman 18-100151 but wish to add some details as mine does not tally in some respects with your standard for the manxman.

Factory records record mine as being dispatched on the 19th October 1961 to retailer Williams of Worcester and sold to a Mr T J Green of Redditch, this man was known by the seller when I purchased the bike, and was a friend of his at time of purchase, so corroborated that it was Blue (polychromatic), and 1 of a few sold in England, but my bike has 650ss stamped behind the breather, the tank is the larger tank as fitted to british bikes and although I've had it resprayed it was in the original blue paint, the carbs inlet is spiggoted, the seat is black but not certain if original.

Hope this info can widen the debate about where manxman finish and 650ss's begin, I believe that mine was not a import but one of the last to be sent out in blue just to clear the line before the 650ss was introduced.

Best wishes Bob Presley.

Hello Bob it start when they Stamp marked 650SS on the back of the crankcases All Norton Manxman's were Stamped 65 or 65C , So your Nice Machine Is a Early 650SS And Not a Manxman , The First 650SS were Paint in Polychromatic Blue And they had a Black seat and larger Tank 3.1/2 gallon , and the rear wheel was a 19 x3.50 . all Manxman Rear wheels were 18x4.00 then they made things More Cheaper with less chrome and more Black paint ,But having said this your machine is still a very nice motorcycle and a rare Early 650SS

Previously wrote:

Previously wrote:

Hello all NOCers Norton Manxman owners wanted for my regsiter and maybe the NEC in November Contact me Anna J Dixon Secretary East yorkshire branch on 01430 430831 or email annajeannette@btinternet.com

Hi Anna and everyone in the forum, from Sam Whiteside in Nevada USA.

A couple of weeks ago I bought a 1961 Norton with the following numbers and I see from an earlier posting of Annaâs that my engine/frame number 18- 95068 is one digit before her 18-95069 and the engine shop number is 65C 283 and Annaâs 288. According to NOC factory records this bike was shipped with those numbers, to Hap Jones a San Francisco area dealer, on 25th Jan 1961.

I bought this from a close neighbor who was a Norton dealer in CA in the 1960s. He has been a great resource for me as I have worked on other bikes over the years. He rode a Manxman in those days and found it to be a fast, easy handling bike. I hope to do the same.

Itâs not coming apart immediately for a full restoration as it has been running fairly recently and just needs a few maintenance items taken care of. Iâd like to run it for a few miles to see what itâs like before the big tear down starts. Itâs had a lot of alterations since new and I have to decide if Iâm going to try to go back to original state or if itâs going to be a modified Manxman. Itâs been painted red over the metallic blue which Iâve been able to find on the underside of the fuel tank and on some parts of the frame which is now black, and engine plates. It has a black seat, which is probably what the dealer asked for.

Anna, Iâve seen references in earlier posts to parts lists and a blue paint color match. Both of those would be very useful to me. Please let me know how I can get these and if there are costs involved, Iâll be pleased to pay them.

Hello Sam Well you have the big Sister bike to my one I wounder there this was or if it had been destroyed like so many others, they do keep coming out of the woodwork , Well lets hope you really enjoy riding these magnificent motorcycles

And yes I have the Paint Codes as well as the Parts Manual So if there is anything you need just contact me by my Email address annajeannette@btinternet.com , And it would be very nice to see the two bike too gether at a Big show some time , If you Got the last Two Roadholders as they were two published No 301 thanks, Mark for that one , there was My manxman on the back page . Thats number 18-95069 shop number 288 built in December 1960 and if you look on Face book Ben As a grave yard for Norton's And Some are Manxmans amog all the piles of crankcases he as in his shop .its a real same to see them all ,Well he as the second bike built Number 2 The first one was stamp marked number 7 as it was pulled of the line for some reason but we will never know, what that was for,,,, These machines ride very nice and they are very fast , and can rev to well over 8000 rpm, Doug Hele Said they were very safe to rev to 9000 rpm ,Tell that one to a Commando Owner .well they did win the Swedish GP and Pebble Beach and did The Thruxton 500 3 years in a row, Yours Anna J Dixon

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Previously wrote:

My thought is that the Manxmen in the U.K. were re-imported during the last 30 years. Living in America, as I have for the last 24 years, I know that some Americans were turning a good profit by buying up Brit bikes and exporting them back to the U.K. where they fetched higher prices.

Hi Colin

Glad i snaged this one before it went home.

Geoff

Hello Geoff I am very happy you are very happy with you Manxman . And thanks very much for the battery strap fittings . I keep then nice in there Original bag . AS I have a bigger Battery on my Manxman its now on 12volt System it works well nice bright lights nice loud horn . I have some bullet style indicators to fit my Manxman now so I do some so called sensible mods as riding in city-es can be dangerous with out indicators and you cannot seem to get your hand out in time now . and a lot of driver have not a clue what you doing when you put you hand out. to signal . so its is the only way. So again Thanks very much and Happy Riding. yours AJD

Previously anna jeannette Dixon wrote:

Hello to all Members who own a Norton Manxman built between November 1960 to October 1961. I am starting a register for these very rare motorcycles so all data would be helpful!

Yours

Anna Jeannette Dixon

Hi Anna,

I've just started to un-box my 650ss that I dismantled 25 years ago (long story). While I was collecting the engine number for NOC registration I noticed someone has stamped "MANXMAN" across the side of the head. Just somebody in the past playing with some stamps?

rgds

keith

Hello its nice to hear from owners from across the globe , we have no ideas on this one but we keep a open mind on this and see what comes up in the posting, if these motorcycles are talked about the better information comes out and the Norton owners club and some of its members are not helping this situation but there are providing this tread I started, some please feel free to put down what you have experienced or information you may of come across and I do wish folks would stop rubbishing people with there information . people like Ben Gradler we need now he as rightly stopped writing and his take on his experiences with these machines as now been lost, we need to value this type of information, and keep a open mind on this type of information, and listing of information could be done in a better way, I do not let others get in my way, and excuse them, as every one as there right to there own appinons, this is the Democratic way, so if any one wishes to write something on this subject put down here!!! Yours Anna J Dixon