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Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Peter Denham at May 13. 2018

Any suggestions welcome on security when leaving our Bikes for short periods unattended .

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Gordon Johnston at May 13. 2018

A heavy lock and chain to something immovable. I was fortunate in Dundee on my Norton and got back just as the scumbags had succeeded in breaking the lock but before they made off with the bike. The strongest lock and chain is the one you need.

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Andrew Heathwood at May 13. 2018

Peter

Agreed on the strong lock and strong chain. Chains do generally get a lot heavier as they get stronger! I've settled on 1.5m of 14mm through-hardened chain and a Squire (SS65CS) lock.  Although difficult to cut using croppers such a setup is still vulnerable to being cut with a cordless angle grinder.

I also use one of those disk locks with a movement sensor and lock it on to a wheel spoke with a reminder cable.  The noise alarm will activate if any attempt is made to move the bike. Just acts as a deterrent.

I'm also looking at a low cost tracker to help recovery if the worst should happen.

Andy

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by John Hall at May 13. 2018

I believe there is a package with an "App" that connects to your mobile phone if the bike is moved or disturbed and alerts you straight away!

I bought an Oxford lock many years ago, a cable with bobbins on it, which rotate against each other and stop Bolt Croppers getting purchase to cut it!

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by ian_soady at May 13. 2018

My first Commando was stolen from outside the house, where it was chained through the frame to a cast iron lamp post with a very heavy duty chain and padlock. I was asleep in an upstairs room maybe 5 yards away.

The chain (neatly cut through with what I imagine was an angle grinder or similar) was left neatly piled up with the unopened lock.

This was in 1982........

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by francis_vidril at May 13. 2018

Are you insured for the flight ?

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Dan Field at May 13. 2018

I was racing today and got to the meeting to find I’d forgotten the key to the padlock that I’d chained the bikes to the trailer with...... nearly a total failure except my mate at the nearby spares stall lent me his cordless anglegrinder and cutting disc. I was surprised how easy it was to cut the padlock off.

Newer hardened locks are on the shopping list. I too intend to fit a tracker and something like  a Blink camera to keep an eye on things.

dan

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Peter Denham at May 14. 2018

Many thanks for the replies that gives me some food for thought.

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by ian_soady at May 14. 2018

Hardened chains etc are just as easy to cut with an angle grinder......

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Peter Denham at May 14. 2018

Previously ian_soady wrote:

Hardened chains etc are just as easy to cut with an angle grinder......

I can't help feeling If someone Is serious there Is not a lot we can do. A Good reason to sit In the pub garden with a pint.

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by ian_soady at May 14. 2018

Absolutely right. If someone really wants it they'll have it. All you can really do is put them off enough so they look for another one.

 

It's a bit like the old joke - 2 men are walking in the Rockies when they come upon a grizzly bear. One starts putting on his running shoes. "What's the point", says his mate -"you can't outrun a grizzly?" "I don't have to, I just have to outrun you......."

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Dan Field at May 14. 2018

Which reminds me of a story my Canadian buddy told me,  while walking in the woods he turned a corner and came face to face with a black bear, forgetting all he was taught about what to do, he turned on his heels and ran back the way he came as fast as he could, after a few seconds he looked over his shoulder to see if he was being chased but all he saw was the bear running equally as fast the other way!! he wasn’t sure who was most scared!

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by david_galloway at May 14. 2018
For a good padlock try an Abloy 362. Look up Almax Security Chains if you really want heavy-duty. Not cheap. Their website has videos showing how easy it is to cut most chains and as Ian says, they will all fall to a portable grinder. Deterrents at best.

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Dan Field at May 15. 2018

Yep anything to slow them down, secure storage, chains, alarms, tracker and camera with push notification, is prob the best you can do.  Parking is another issue altogether I’ve seen videos of bike being lifted straight into the back of a van.

i like the idea of removing/hiding my manual advance retard when parked so any thief ends up with a broken leg if they try and start it!  Secret switches (non mag) and fuse removal may also slow them down.

dan

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by peter_stowe at May 15. 2018

My tip for medium long term storage protection is to remove and hide the handlebar clamps and bolts. It's hard to move a bike with no handle bars fixed.

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Peter Denham at May 17. 2018

Previously ian_soady wrote:

Absolutely right. If someone really wants it they'll have it. All you can really do is put them off enough so they look for another one.

 

It's a bit like the old joke - 2 men are walking in the Rockies when they come upon a grizzly bear. One starts putting on his running shoes. "What's the point", says his mate -"you can't outrun a grizzly?" "I don't have to, I just have to outrun you......."

Laughing

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Allen Hanford at May 21. 2018

On the topic of locks, this guy's youtube channel is pretty good. He tests lots of different locks against picking and brute force attacks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChfKoyFBKTM

Re: Beat the Scumbags?

Posted by Peter Denham at May 22. 2018

Previously Allen Hanford wrote:

On the topic of locks, this guy's youtube channel is pretty good. He tests lots of different locks against picking and brute force attacks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChfKoyFBKTM

Interesting many thanks.

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