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Posted by nidrel_walsh at June 23. 2018

Hi All. This is my second year as a member and i was hoping to get a factory record certificate for my commamdo.

Unfortunatly according to the club they have limited mk3 records, does anyone in the club have any records? My commando is a very late bike registered in jan 1979. But 1978 on frame.

Any help would be appreciated so i can trace the bikes history.

 

Eddy

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by john_holmes at June 23. 2018

Try Andover Norton, they have better late records but still with gaps.

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by peter_birch at June 24. 2018

Hi Eddy

I have just successfully established that my Mk 111 Commando was manufactured in 1977 even though it was first registered in February 1978.

After help and advice from Dave Catton (NOC Twin Records Officer), I got a copy of the original  Despatch Records from Andover Norton for £16-67 + VAT and postage.  This helped Dave certify that the bike was manufactured in 1977 and he issued an official Dating Letter, at a cost of £20.

 

So my Commando is now officially classed as an Historic Vehicle, after a 4 week wait from DVLA.  Not only has this saved me money, but it also means that an MOT is no longer needed and I have added to the documentation for my Commando.

 

Best of luck with your quest

Pete

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by joe_seifert at June 24. 2018

Not really sure why the DVLA wants an NOC certificate if you have confirmation from us, i.e. the historical part of Norton.

The NOC can but underwrite what we have in factual information.

As for the "gaps", we (Andover Norton) have all the original 850Mk3 books- the "Gaps" are in the 850pre-Mk3 era and 1973 750s. These records got lost and nobody has them.

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by peter_birch at June 24. 2018

I sent photos of the complete Commando along with photos of the engine number and frame number to NOC.  They endorsed the photos and this proves that the bike is exactly as manufactured and not now part of a trike or bitsa.

As you say, Joe, I may well have had my application for Historic Vehicle classification passed without the NOC certificate but for the sake of £20 I was more than happy to add weight to my argument and try to speed things up with Swansea.  That said, it still took 4 weeks to get my application approved.....

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by nidrel_walsh at June 24. 2018

Previously joe_seifert wrote:

Not really sure why the DVLA wants an NOC certificate if you have confirmation from us, i.e. the historical part of Norton.

The NOC can but underwrite what we have in factual information.

As for the "gaps", we (Andover Norton) have all the original 850Mk3 books- the "Gaps" are in the 850pre-Mk3 era and 1973 750s. These records got lost and nobody has them.

Hi Joe

If i ring tomorrow with the frame and engine number would it be possible to get build confirmation?

Bike was registered in 1979 and looks close to one of the last 150 supplied and am i correct in saying shipped to yourselves?

 

Kind regards eddy

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by bob_scholes at December 02. 2018

Vintage motor cycle club is a source of factory records, though you will have to become a member and then another £25 for the details. These records apparently, were held at the science museum.

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by john_holmes at December 02. 2018

On the DVLA website is a regularly updated pdf with a list of authorised dating services, Andover Norton is not on the list, the NOC and the VMCC are on the list. So the DVLA do not recognise AN dating certs hence the need for NOC confirmation. AN need to apply to get on the list.

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/747909/v765x1-list-of-vehicle-owners-clubs.pdf

Re: Commando factory records

Posted by ashley_cutler at December 05. 2018

A dating certificate can different from a Factory record. Considering how many Factory records AN send out, this is the first we have heard. Often seen is the wrong dates on NOVA forms, check these as once the V5 is issued then it is a nightmare, bordering impossible, to change no matter how many Dating certs or factory records you have.

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