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Posted by maurice_cloud at January 27. 2018

Hi

Has anyone got just the plug laying around for the power Accessory socket, I got the mk 3 Motorcycle a year or so ago and it never came with one and I don`t what to spend out on the whole socket and plug when I only need the Plug so if any of you Nice Norton people have one going I would be most grateful if you can.

or anywhere you can get just the plug.

 

Thanks Maurice

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Posted by colin_peterson at January 27. 2018

I'd like the plug to be available separately too, but I'm in no hurry – give Andover Norton a call, maybe?

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Posted by derek_davies at January 27. 2018

RGM sell just the plug, part number 062666P the only thing they list the price as £18.90 which is exactly the same price as plug and socket part number 062666!

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Posted by colin_peterson at January 27. 2018

That seems wrong – but since it seems only recently to have been re-introduced maybe it's a question of demand and supply. I'd still expect a few quid off, though! Now I'm in even less of a hurry ...

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Posted by mark_woodward at January 27. 2018

Excuse me for being cynical but, unless you are determined to be commited to originality, paying circa £20.00 for something worth about 10p seems a little 'over the top' - a 'fag-lighter' socket or similar would appear to be better (and more practicle) bet ... .

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Posted by colin_peterson at January 27. 2018

Good point – although when I wanted to install a cigar lighter/USB sockets in my Triumph Herald a year or so ago, I found that 'accessory sockets' that mimic cigar lighters, while being fairly weather-proof, wouldn't power an actual cigar lighter, as they're too deep for the necessary contacts; and actual cigar lighters aren't at all weather-proof, from what I found. So yes, that kind of 'accessory socket' is much cheaper than the repro original item, and e.g. my timing light has a plug to fit that kind of socket, but I still wouldn't be able to use it to light a fag ... There's a selection for bikes on ebay, under a tenner. This is the one I used in my car for a USB adapter: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-In-Car-12v-24v-Waterproof-Plug-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket/182014618791?epid=1357184170&hash=item2a60eaaca7:g:M5kAAOSwG-1Wuh1Z

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Posted by maurice_cloud at January 27. 2018

I agree with the price being so much for just a plug, £18.99 RGM want and that`s plus Vat they even Apologise for the price and I also agree with it must have cost only 50p to make there must be somewhere or someone who can reproduce the plug and socket for a more affordable like around a £5

It looks like us guy`s will just have to keep looking for one or hope someone will make them Cheaper.

Re: Accessory power plug

Posted by maurice_cloud at January 28. 2018

Hi Guy`s I think we are getting off the track but thanks steve.

as I just wanted to keep with the original plug that fits in the original socket did not want to change to a fancy one..... Just need a Original Plug ;)

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Posted by julian_wells at January 29. 2018

No time to check right now, but I have a memory that what appears to be an exactly similar part was fitted to Land Rovers and the like (unfortunately, the same memory suggests that pricing was also similar to RGM's).

 

Previously maurice_cloud wrote:

Hi Guy`s I think we are getting off the track but thanks steve.

as I just wanted to keep with the original plug that fits in the original socket did not want to change to a fancy one..... Just need a Original Plug ;)

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Posted by eugene_brolund at January 29. 2018

Hi Maurice,

 

I stock them, but I am in the USA. I buy them from Wassell, as they are having them made & are an exact replica & very high quality. Mine are a bit dear, but I have to buy them, ship to the UK, add 15% to cover ebay & Paypal feet, I include shipping in my price. I am sure if you go to any good Norton parts supplier. they should have them. If no luck, fo to the Wassell website & see who your locas distributor is. For ref., here is my ebay listing to show you some photos of what the new parts look like:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/172933881993

 

Skip Brolund

 

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Posted by maurice_cloud at January 30. 2018

WoW Thanks skip

 

But that works out at £50.79 that`s nearly Double what we can get them here for and everyone over here is moaning of paying out £29 for the item that costs just a £1 to make so all in all what a price to pay out to have one..... Oh well it looks like a lot of Norton owners will not bother getting one.....I will keep looking on the Auto Jumble`s as I only wanted the plug the socket it already on the motorcycle :)

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Posted by george_farenden at January 30. 2018

Hi,

Never having had one of these, I don't know what size it is, but it looks to me like an electric shaver plug?

If so then this might be a cheaper option?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-2-Pin-Electric-Shaver-Lead-Plug-Fits-Most-Shavers/162137313766?hash=item25c02311e6:g:x0EAAOSwdzVXiOVN

If I am totally wrong, can anyone post the pin size and spacing to help in this search?

Annoyingly, Skips picture shows the brand as RS, but a look on their site comes up empty...

Hope you find whar you need,

George.

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Posted by colin_peterson at January 30. 2018

If you held one of these plugs in your hand, you'd spot the difference immediately. The two pins vary slightly in thickness, thus preserving polarity (supposing it matters for the accessory, but it certainly would for battery charging): I make the thinner pin out to be 0.104" at the base (the pins are split and slightly spread at the top to help the plug stay in), the thicker one 0.116" and the gap between them 0.375" – so you can see they're quite tiddly compared to shaver plugs. Also I wouldn't take my readings alone as gospel, because my eyesight isn't what it was ... If anyone else comes up with similar figures, then fine, but if not then they might be more accurate!

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Posted by eugene_brolund at January 30. 2018

Hi Maurice, as I said previously, mine would be too expensive do to all the shipping costs 3 times!!! Have you gone to the Wassell website to see who is a distributor in your area yet? I am sure they can buy them direct & save you a ton of cash.

These are an accurate replica of the original part made by Wassell, not the original manufacturer.

http://www.totalbikebits.com/dealer_listings/dealer_listings.html

 

The Wassell part number is WW26165

 

Wassell full line catalog

see page 90 in the electrical section

 

file:///C:/Users/Thinkpad%20User/Downloads/Wassell_Interactive_Catalogue_2017%20(7).pdf

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Posted by maurice_cloud at January 30. 2018

Hi Skip

I downloaded the PDF file and yes on page 90 there it was the thing is Wassell will only deal with the trade, and I can`t seem to find any dealers that list Wassell parts over here.

 

I even was even going to email them but as I said they will not deal with the public

 

cheers

Maurice

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Posted by maurice_cloud at January 30. 2018

Previously maurice_cloud wrote:

Hi Skip

I downloaded the PDF file and yes on page 90 there it was the thing is Wassell will only deal with the trade, and I can`t seem to find any dealers that list Wassell parts over here.

 

I even was even going to email them but as I said they will not deal with the public

 

cheers

Maurice

Are just found a dealer and he is only down the road from me so will give them a call tomorrow but it said they are more or less for cars but I will try them anyway..

Re: Accessory power plug

Posted by maurice_cloud at January 31. 2018

Hi

 

Well phoned up the company what Wassell said was a dealer for them only they said the had not done any dealings with them for 10 years or more so that was a waist of time,

so I phoned Andover Norton one to ask about the parts I had ordered and not got yet ;-(

and I asked the if they had a plug laying around and was told no and they only sell the plug & socket together....... so as I said I will have to keep looking on auto jumbles etc.

Maurice

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Posted by philip_ham at November 21. 2018

I'm trying to find the diameter of the two pins to push into the socket.  I've tried using my limited drill set to measure them and find the large one is 3.5mm and the smaller one is about 3.3mm.

Please could someone who has the actual male part measure the pins so that I can make a connector?

I've tried to measure the centre to centre distance of the pins but am wary of getting the vernier caliper too close to the exposed ends of the sockets, fearing that I will short it out!  I reckon they are about 1/2" C/C.

Philip

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Posted by neill_watkins at November 21. 2018

maurice_cloud

I,m with Mark Woodward on thus one, waterproof /marine cig lighter type readily available in standard cig lighter accessory or USB. I use both with separate fuses and they are stuck to velcro on the left side of the battery because I haven,t bothered to make up a bracket yet. You can also get a USB adapter that fits into the cig socket if you only want one.

Great for regular tyre pressure top ups and phone/ipad/camera recharging

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Posted by ashley_cutler at November 21. 2018

The cigarette and accessory sockets, though looking the same are slightly different.

Oxford do a good range of leads sockets that can be left attached to the battery, one lead they do will connect to your charger via the industry standard connectors and also to the lead of the accessory socket. The leads and connectors are waterproof and long enough to come up to a tank bag when needed. When you don't need them tuck them next to the battery.

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Posted by peter_mcdermott at November 21. 2018

Previously Philip Ham wrote:

I'm trying to find the diameter of the two pins to push into the socket.  I've tried using my limited drill set to measure them and find the large one is 3.5mm and the smaller one is about 3.3mm.

Please could someone who has the actual male part measure the pins so that I can make a connector?

I've tried to measure the centre to centre distance of the pins but am wary of getting the vernier caliper too close to the exposed ends of the sockets, fearing that I will short it out!  I reckon they are about 1/2" C/C.

Philip

I'm new to the wonders of Commandoland but as I'm currently in the process of making a blanking plug for the power outlet I have measured the wider terminal  (+ve) as 3.35mm and the smaller one as 2.87mm,  The spacing seems to be 13.4mm, 17/32" in old money.

My older Nortons all have a fused Tamiya plug fly lead off the battery and sat nav, charger, tyre compressor, soldering iron, etc., all run off this.  Doing the same now with the Commando outlet plug and thought I'd pick up a few spare plugs until I discovered the price !  A cheaper albeit cumbersome alternative might be to adapt some Wander / Banana plugs to fit the Commando socket.  The wider hole takes a standard plug quite well (photo below) but the smaller one really requires the pin turning down a little to seat fully home.  Shouldn't be a problem wth the old style solid split pin Wander Plugs.

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Posted by philip_ham at November 21. 2018

Thanks for the replies, but all I want is for someone with a male plug to measure the pins please.

Philip

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Posted by colin_peterson at November 21. 2018

Previously Philip Ham wrote:

Thanks for the replies, but all I want is for someone with a male plug to measure the pins please.

Philip

Interesting – I have the male plug as supplied by AN in the last year or so, with a Vernier gauge I make the fatter pin about 3mm and the thinner one about 2.5mm. That's measuring at the base, where they enter the plastic body, and from one side of the split in each pin to the other. From centre to centre looks to be 12.5mm, or 0.48". HTH

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Posted by philip_ham at November 21. 2018

Previously Colin Peterson wrote:

Previously Philip Ham wrote:

Thanks for the replies, but all I want is for someone with a male plug to measure the pins please.

Philip

Interesting – I have the male plug as supplied by AN in the last year or so, with a Vernier gauge I make the fatter pin about 3mm and the thinner one about 2.5mm. That's measuring at the base, where they enter the plastic body, and from one side of the split in each pin to the other. From centre to centre looks to be 12.5mm, or 0.48". HTH

Colin,

Thanks for taking the measurements, they do seem smaller than the holes in my socket that I measured using drills.  Perhaps the holes taper slightly so that the pins enter easily but then grip as they are inserted further.

Think I'll need to take the bike to my brother's place and get him to turn some rod down until they're a snug fit in the socket to find what fits best.

Philip

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Posted by ian_goodhall at November 21. 2018

The VMCC sell Wassel stuff. They don't list that plug & socket but might be worth phoning them and asking if they could get them and at what cost.

 

I bought a few of the plugs from RS electrical suppliers years ago for not much. They stopped making them though.

Ian

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Posted by michael_curtis at November 25. 2018

Hopefully I have attached some photos, hope it helps someone.

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Posted by michael_curtis at November 25. 2018

 

And more.    The small pin seems to be 2.5mm and the large pin 3mm and 12.5 centre of pins. I recently bought plug and socket from our Norton OC spares for £13 plus p&p vat.

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Posted by alan_osborn at November 25. 2018

A few extra facts. As the plug and socket have always been a 'standard' electrical part ie NOT specific to Nortons, they were available as such for many years but often they came in WHITE, not a recognised Norton part!! At one time considered as a caravan part.

Another point to be aware of, the plug has different size pins so that you do NOT put them in reverse polarity! Fine, except you can still TOUCH the pins to the socket, and if you are dealing with some fussy electronics on your extension plug, then you could easily have blown the very item you are trying to protect. Hmmm.

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Posted by francis_vidril at November 26. 2018

Invaluable advice of Alan Osborn one more time Smile

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