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Posted by john_dunn1 at October 02. 2017

There is a Navigator on Ebay. Looks like it started its life as a Deluxe model. Is it worth much with with out its tin ware.

John.

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Posted by robert_tuck at October 02. 2017

I have a spare rear enclosure, side panels may be a problem, could be an Atlas or SS rear mudguard in there.

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Posted by Ulrich Hoffmann at October 02. 2017

Head lamp is also not correct, also front mudguard looks different, chainguard is missing. A lot of work to get it original.

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Posted by patrick_mullen at October 02. 2017

Chrome mudguards were an option on both Jubilee and Navigator from around 1961 but the rear is obviously not original  Scrap chrome mudguards are just scrap.  The missing panels are likely to be a major problem and the headstock cover is missing as well.

In comparison to classic cars old motorbikes like this are really not worth restoring. You could buy quite a respectable MGB for this money - admittedly a rubber bumper GT but even so it can be made roadworthy for half the cost of restoring a Jubilee.

Patrick

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Posted by robert_tuck at October 02. 2017

After having an MGB (long ago) I think I would rather sell a "B" and use the cash to restore the Navvy!.  I just turned down the offer of a free roadworthy  MOT'd Marlin Berlineta ,You have to do what floats the boat.

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Posted by patrick_mullen at October 02. 2017

I can't sat too much either way as I have five Jubilees/Navigators, two Mk1 MGBs, one seventies MGB GT and one Morris Isis - a big six cylinder from the fifties.  The Isis was the car I learned to drive in way back in 1958.  The early B is still very capable on the road; cruises easily at 120KMH on the motorway to Dublin and still easily exceeds the magic 100MPH mark (only on the track off course).Today they were all tucked away under their covers as the Summer has gone for this year.

Here's a group photo before they were put inside- all tanks drained.

Patrick 

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Posted by Dan Field at October 02. 2017

Part of the joy of the lightweights is that they are still cheap, for a grand you could make that into a perfectly good rider. Does of course depend on the condition of the engine.

i had a Mk 1 consul for about 10 years as a daily run about.

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Posted by john_dunn1 at October 02. 2017

The problem with this bike it has the lugs for the side panels but no side panels. Probably easier to convert to a standard Jubilee than find enclosures (at a decent price) Could the lugs be cut off, or do they have different frames Would the standard oil and tool box fit this frame.

John

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Posted by patrick_mullen at October 03. 2017

Hi John,

The lugs can be cut off and the Standard oil tank and battery box can be fitted - I know for sure as I have done this in the past, maybe 15 years ago when running Jubilees fetched a few hundred pounds .  Even then the tin ware was hard to find.  You need to make and weld on the  lugs for mounting the oil tank and battery box, modify the seat mounting etc.

It's not difficult to do if you already possess the right equipment but is it worth doing ? Only you can decide that.  But it will cost a lot of money just in parts and materials; new tyres, wheel rims, spokes, exhausts, cables, seat and that's assuming the engine/gearbox/tank is in perfect condition (which it won't be) and assuming that you can do your own welding, frame blasting, and repainting/rechroming yourself.

I did my De Luxe Navigator completely myself and I know that it has cost me at least twice/three times what it would fetch on sale.  TV programs like Wheeler Dealers make it seem easy to make money from restoration but it is much cheaper to buy an immaculate machine in the first place.

But then you miss all the excitement of doing it yourself - so your choice.

Patrick

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Posted by Dan Field at October 03. 2017

Previously john_dunn1 wrote:

The problem with this bike it has the lugs for the side panels but no side panels. Probably easier to convert to a standard Jubilee than find enclosures (at a decent price) Could the lugs be cut off, or do they have different frames Would the standard oil and tool box fit this frame.

John

 

There was a set of enclosures at Netley for not much money.

dan

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Posted by john_dunn1 at October 03. 2017

Someone has made an offer 999.00. Sounds a lot. Condition does not look good, tinware is missing. Is the engine and gearbox OK?

Dan enclosures At Netley, As a matter of interest how much where they going for.

John.

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Posted by john_mcbriarty at October 03. 2017

Previously john_dunn1 wrote:

There is a Navigator on Ebay. Looks like it started its life as a Deluxe model. Is it worth much with with out its tin ware.

John.

Hi John, I can't answer your question, the reason I am contacting you is that I have a Navigator for sale that is in good nick, I am in County Durham, (North East) U.K.         johnmcbriarty@hotmail.co.uk         Mobile No.  07434413191           The Bike is advertised on Gumtree under the heading "Other Vehicles" (because it is not Taxed)  it is Sorned     John.

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Posted by patrick_mullen at October 04. 2017

I have just checked and the NOCshop have a rear enclosure but it looks very rusty and the price quoted is not in touch with reality.  I bought a vastly better one at Stafford a couple of years ago for £60.  You can always make some side panels out of aluminium sheet easily obtained from the local scrapyard. Maybe not perfect unless you are very skilled!.

Most Jubilee/Navigator bits seem to be in the South East of England so Dan is in a good area.

Patrick

 

 

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Posted by Dan Field at October 04. 2017

Previously john_dunn1 wrote:

Dan enclosures At Netley, As a matter of interest how much where they going for.

John.

 

 

 

I can’t remember exactly but I thought they were reasonable so must have been under £100! .... £75 comes to mind.

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