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Wideline frame ID help

Posted by james_ferdinando at October 07. 2011

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by Skip Brolund at October 09. 2011

This post by James is blank on my computer?

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at October 09. 2011

Previously wrote:

This post by James is blank on my computer?

Hello yes you are right eugene   There and blank space on my computer too ??????

 

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by james_ferdinando at October 09. 2011

Hi - is blank now but wasn't before.....gremils have got to it!!

Anyway - the Triton wideline frame I have, has 'R.McK 1954' stamped on it and has some small differences that a normal road featherbed. Can anybody shed any light on this frame?

The frame is on a Triton I just brought and it was put together in 1984 (when it was registered). There are no other numbers on the frame that I can see (it looks like powder coat) but it is different than another road wideline frame I have. The diagonal seat tubes (not sure of the proper name) are much thinner guage tube and the seat has a curved bracket supporting it (see pics). I have noticed that the seat tubes also have two rougher patches on them in exactly the same place both sides - looks like the number plate brackets were removed at some point, and also there is a flatter section on the front of the headstock that looks again like it may have had a fairing bracket removed.

[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me065.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me066.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me067.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me069.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me072.jpg[/img]


I will try and contact the NOC and try and get some more information.

Thanks again

Jamie

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at October 10. 2011

Previously wrote:

Hi - is blank now but wasn't before.....gremils have got to it!!

Anyway - the Triton wideline frame I have, has 'R.McK 1954' stamped on it and has some small differences that a normal road featherbed. Can anybody shed any light on this frame?

The frame is on a Triton I just brought and it was put together in 1984 (when it was registered). There are no other numbers on the frame that I can see (it looks like powder coat) but it is different than another road wideline frame I have. The diagonal seat tubes (not sure of the proper name) are much thinner guage tube and the seat has a curved bracket supporting it (see pics). I have noticed that the seat tubes also have two rougher patches on them in exactly the same place both sides - looks like the number plate brackets were removed at some point, and also there is a flatter section on the front of the headstock that looks again like it may have had a fairing bracket removed.

[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me065.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me066.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me067.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me069.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me072.jpg[/img]


I will try and contact the NOC and try and get some more information.

Thanks again

Jamie

Hello James this frame too me looks like a re-production frame  Number Frame Number should be on the left hand gusset , Not the Right hand gusset like in the Photo bucket , there should be a number along  the lug that holds the head steady, near the head stock  , Hope this may help you in some way ?

 

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by robert_tuck at October 10. 2011

Previously wrote:

Hi - is blank now but wasn't before.....gremils have got to it!!

Anyway - the Triton wideline frame I have, has 'R.McK 1954' stamped on it and has some small differences that a normal road featherbed. Can anybody shed any light on this frame?

The frame is on a Triton I just brought and it was put together in 1984 (when it was registered). There are no other numbers on the frame that I can see (it looks like powder coat) but it is different than another road wideline frame I have. The diagonal seat tubes (not sure of the proper name) are much thinner guage tube and the seat has a curved bracket supporting it (see pics). I have noticed that the seat tubes also have two rougher patches on them in exactly the same place both sides - looks like the number plate brackets were removed at some point, and also there is a flatter section on the front of the headstock that looks again like it may have had a fairing bracket removed.

[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me065.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me066.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me067.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me069.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me072.jpg[/img]


I will try and contact the NOC and try and get some more information.

Thanks again

Jamie           

 

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by robert_tuck at October 10. 2011

It would appear that the frame could be one that Rex McCandles made or modified.

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by james_ferdinando at October 10. 2011

Thanks all - the number appears on both the right and left sides in the same place. I will take the tank off tomorrow and have a look at the headsteady lug.

Is there any way of telling for sure who made / modified the frame, do the NOC have all the records of all 'genuine' frames made?

Thanks again

Jamie

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by john_whiting at October 11. 2011

In 1984 BSA[the ghost of ]were knocking out replica featherbed frames,as well as mopeds,I think Mr K Sprayson may have been involved.There were also a lot of other replicas on the market,made from everything from chromemoly to old gaspipe.Regards John.

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by neil_glover at September 04. 2017
Hi There might anyone have more details on this bike - im now considering purchasing her. the Frame # appears to be RMcK 1954 - there is a ser # that is not recognised by Norton. appreciate any help. V best Neil

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by john_hall1 at September 11. 2017

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by john_hall1 at September 11. 2017

Previously robert_tuck wrote:

It would appear that the frame could be one that Rex McCandles made or modified.

I wouldn't have thought that because McCandless, is spelt like this with a C, He would not have used a "K" surely unless, it was a known personal Trade Mark of his!

 

I would look for another Celtic named individual, unless someone was being clever using the "Son of" ID as in Mc?

 

Cheers

 

John H

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by Jonathan Soons at September 13. 2017

It looks like a good Manx reproduction. The way the seat tubes join the main loops is different from a regular wideline.

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by ian_hay at November 01. 2017

Previously james_ferdinando wrote:

Hi - is blank now but wasn't before.....gremils have got to it!!

Anyway - the Triton wideline frame I have, has 'R.McK 1954' stamped on it and has some small differences that a normal road featherbed. Can anybody shed any light on this frame?

The frame is on a Triton I just brought and it was put together in 1984 (when it was registered). There are no other numbers on the frame that I can see (it looks like powder coat) but it is different than another road wideline frame I have. The diagonal seat tubes (not sure of the proper name) are much thinner guage tube and the seat has a curved bracket supporting it (see pics). I have noticed that the seat tubes also have two rougher patches on them in exactly the same place both sides - looks like the number plate brackets were removed at some point, and also there is a flatter section on the front of the headstock that looks again like it may have had a fairing bracket removed.

[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me065.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me066.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me067.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me069.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me072.jpg[/img]


I will try and contact the NOC and try and get some more information.

Thanks again

Jamie

Hi Jamie

I can't view your attachments due to a security gismo on my computer, but I find your information very interesting.

I appreciate you have 1954 stamped on the frame, although apparently on the wrong side but is this actually a 54 frame?

Records show that in 1951 McCandless Bros took delivery of the 2nd production Dominator, apparently this machine was without engine or g/box numbers, is it possible that this frame might be from this machine?

While talking to Ken Sprayson a while ago he mentioned that it is possible to find the year of manufacture stamped on the edge of the the bracket on the  h\stock to which the petrol tank strap is attached

The reason I am curious is because I have the 5th production Dominator which I have owned since 1956, although at present it does require rebuilding.

Here's hoping you have some success in your inquiries.

Regards, Ian

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by paul_standeven at November 02. 2017

Rex McCandless' frames had bolt-on rear subframes, and he disapproved of the welded version

Paul

 

Previously robert_tuck wrote:

It would appear that the frame could be one that Rex McCandles made or modified.

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