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Posted by chris_moorhouse at August 21. 2010

Hi ,  I need to buy a new pair of rear shox for my `74 850 Commando, I was thinking of getting either the RGM or Hagon`s , has anyone any advice on what to get ,please?

Re: Shox?

Posted by Chris Grimmett at August 21. 2010

I need some too.  Could somebody tell us about variable rate shocks?  I hear the Progressives are good.  Is it true that the Koni version is now obsolete?  What about Ikons?  I think one or two of these require some outspacing to give enough clearance for the springs.

Re: Shox?

Posted by keith_glassborow at August 23. 2010

Well I went the cheapskate route and bought NJB shocks. They are a touch longer than Hagons so if you have short legs like me it makes it slightly harder to get both feet on the deck. Plastic inserts are supplied to bring the diameter down to 3/8" for fixing bolt. They have four pre-loads instead of Hagon's four. So far I'm happy with them at at £69 a pair I won't be expecting too much. The One Hagon failed after 30,000 miles, I guess that was OK.

Re: Shox?

Posted by gino_rondelli at August 24. 2010

I bought Ikons for my two most used Commandos,(my 850 Mk1 and Mk3) expensive (but much cheaper if you buy 2 or more sets from SRM) They are like night and day compared to Hagons or the cheaper versions, the adjustable damping is very good. With a fully loaded Commando its no longer like riding a pogo stick. There is a slight clearance problem with the chainguard because they are wider but nothing a little "adjustment" won't fix. My only critisism is that the chrome on the springs isn't the best and after a couple of winters they are showing signs of pitting.

If there was a rating I'd rate Hagons at 6 and Ikon's at 10 ,they are that much better (if you do the miles) Get a Landsdowne kit for the front as well and handling will be transformed!

Re: Shox?

Posted by ian_woolley at August 24. 2010

Ikon is a deliberate anagram of Koni.  Does that help?

Re: Shox?

Posted by chris_moorhouse at August 25. 2010

Previously wrote:

I bought Ikons for my two most used Commandos,(my 850 Mk1 and Mk3) expensive (but much cheaper if you buy 2 or more sets from SRM) They are like night and day compared to Hagons or the cheaper versions, the adjustable damping is very good. With a fully loaded Commando its no longer like riding a pogo stick. There is a slight clearance problem with the chainguard because they are wider but nothing a little "adjustment" won't fix. My only critisism is that the chrome on the springs isn't the best and after a couple of winters they are showing signs of pitting.

If there was a rating I'd rate Hagons at 6 and Ikon's at 10 ,they are that much better (if you do the miles) Get a Landsdowne kit for the front as well and handling will be transformed!

Thanks very much for the invaluble info on shox Gino. Coincidentally, Classic Bike this month ran a feature on the 850 Commando and they mentioned Ikons as the superior shox of choice. What`s a "Lansdowne kit for the front"?

Re: Shox?

Posted by Chris Grimmett at August 25. 2010

Previously wrote:

Previously wrote:

I bought Ikons for my two most used Commandos,(my 850 Mk1 and Mk3) expensive (but much cheaper if you buy 2 or more sets from SRM) They are like night and day compared to Hagons or the cheaper versions, the adjustable damping is very good. With a fully loaded Commando its no longer like riding a pogo stick. There is a slight clearance problem with the chainguard because they are wider but nothing a little "adjustment" won't fix. My only critisism is that the chrome on the springs isn't the best and after a couple of winters they are showing signs of pitting.

If there was a rating I'd rate Hagons at 6 and Ikon's at 10 ,they are that much better (if you do the miles) Get a Landsdowne kit for the front as well and handling will be transformed!

Thanks very much for the invaluble info on shox Gino. Coincidentally, Classic Bike this month ran a feature on the 850 Commando and they mentioned Ikons as the superior shox of choice. What`s a "Lansdowne kit for the front"?

Here's some information on the Lansdowne Kit

Re: Shox?

Posted by Chris Grimmett at August 25. 2010

Previously wrote:

Ikon is a deliberate anagram of Koni.  Does that help?

I assume from what you have said that Ikons have to be mounted the other way up from Konis.

Re: Shox?

Posted by gino_rondelli at August 25. 2010

Well they are made in Australia so if you look at them relative to the UK and your Commando is in Oz then yes they are upside down :)

For those of you looking for a serious answer they are in fact a copy (a better copy I think) than the old dial a ride Koni's, mounted conventionaly!

Re: Shox?

Posted by leslie,peter_howard at August 25. 2010

Previously wrote:

Hi ,  I need to buy a new pair of rear shox for my `74 850 Commando, I was thinking of getting either the RGM or Hagon`s , has anyone any advice on what to get ,please?

Hi Chris. My choice would be the HAGON Shocks. Reasons:

1) They are British made.

2) They are well made and work superbly.

3) They have dual rate springs.

4) They are relatively inexpensive compared to the IKON shocks and some others.

5) They have a long leak proof life, and are pretty resistant to corrosion.

6) They are all you require unless you go racing and want to spend days setting up your suspension, the differenece will be minimal.

7) Alf Hagon is a very nice bloke.

8) The rest are overated, just because they are foreign.

9) IKON shocks have appalling customer relations. I sent them a comprehensive email question and they never bothered to reply...I detest companies like that!

10) You can get Hagons in all British styles.

phew....managed to get 10 good reasons...LOL.

 

One negative though. I dislike the HAGON name strip. stuck on the adjuster...not because of the name but mearly because it looks out of place, but I think you can peel this off.

 

Regards.

 

Les H

Re: Shox?

Posted by ian_woolley at August 25. 2010

Previously wrote:

Previously wrote:

Ikon is a deliberate anagram of Koni.  Does that help?

I assume from what you have said that Ikons have to be mounted the other way up from Konis.

 

Or Ikons have a remarkable similarity to Konis who don't make motorcycle shock absorbers any more.

 

Re: Shox?

Posted by chris_moorhouse at September 13. 2010

I bought a pair from Rgm and they had zero damping so I sent them back and got a refund and put the old ones back on which work 100% better. Also take note that the wide diameter sprung shox foul the chain guard.

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