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Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by Ulrich Hoffmann at February 15. 2017

Hello!

For originality´s sake:

Is a handlebar with welded lugs for the hand levers correct for a Navigator?

Like this one?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/262689583774?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by robert_tuck at February 15. 2017

Logic would say that The roadholder forks would use the standard Dommy set up.

Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by patrick_mullen at February 15. 2017

I don't know the answer. If you really want to be precisely correct you would be best advised to contact Andy S as he knows more than anyone about Navigators. The 1959 Jubilee had handlebars with welded on lever brackets and it also had welded on mounting lugs for mounting on the Francis Barnett style forks.  I think around about October 1960 the Jubilee handlebars changed their design keeping the welded on lever brackets but changing to more traditional fork mountings and still using FB style forks. So these bars might be close to correct even though they are listed for a BSA Bantam

The Navigator always had the Roadholder forks from October 1960 but possibly did use SIMILAR handlebars to the Jubilee as the same part number is listed for Navigator/Jubilee brake and clutch levers in the 1961/62 Spare Parts List.  Navigator handlebars though had a different part number so they are not identical to the Jubilee bars of this year.

Dominator bars are much better.  Norton straights were always the right image.

Patrick

 

Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by crawford_logan at February 15. 2017

Ulrich,

The bars you show in the photo are not correct. I took original bars off my 1964 Navigator and they are welded on brackets but not like the ones in the photo.

It is too late at night to go out to the garage and take a photo but I will do it tomorrow and put it up here.

Also got to agree with Norton straights - that is what I have bought.

Crawford

Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at February 15. 2017
Previously patrick_mullen wrote:

I don't know the answer. If you really want to be precisely correct you would be best advised to contact Andy S as he knows more than anyone about Navigators. The 1959 Jubilee had handlebars with welded on lever brackets and it also had welded on mounting lugs for mounting on the Francis Barnett style forks.  I think around about October 1960 the Jubilee handlebars changed their design keeping the welded on lever brackets but changing to more traditional fork mountings and still using FB style forks. So these bars might be close to correct even though they are listed for a BSA Bantam

The Navigator always had the Roadholder forks from October 1960 but possibly did use SIMILAR handlebars to the Jubilee as the same part number is listed for Navigator/Jubilee brake and clutch levers in the 1961/62 Spare Parts List.  Navigator handlebars though had a different part number so they are not identical to the Jubilee bars of this year.

Dominator bars are much better.  Norton straights were always the right image.

Patrick

 HELLO  These Handle bars and lever were made by AMAL   has I have them In my 1959 Amal Manuel all 130 pages   and every type of lever and handel bars   inculding racing type has well  you be amased  what in my Amal Book   even tuning for TT10 and TT15 and GP caburettors  and carburettor tuning for 376 twin carb set up  the 389 twin carb set up   and all part numbers    a real gem of Amal Manuel     Yours Anna J 

 

Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by crawford_logan at February 16. 2017

OK, got out to garage. The photo is of the handlebars and levers I removed from my 1964 Navigator. They are shown in the 1964 Norton instruction manual that came with the bike so they are correct.

I put a tape measure beside them and also a set of new stainless Norton straights from the Club spares scheme.

Hope this helps

Crawford

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Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by Ulrich Hoffmann at February 18. 2017

Hello Crawford!

Thanks for the picture.

I bought the same straight bars from the NOC shop and will use it with bolt on levers.

Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by Dan Field at February 19. 2017

Hi, when you are next in the garage can you measure the gap between the pivot and centre of the nipple on the clutch side? Thanks

Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by patrick_mullen at February 19. 2017

It will be interesting to see  Crawford's reply re the Navigator's handlebars .  Here's a picture of the 1959 Jubilee bars which seem to have a very similar bend to the Navigator but have the welded on mountings.  I make the pivot to centre distance 0.875  (7/8") on these.

Patrick

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Re: Norton Navigator handle bars

Posted by Dan Field at February 20. 2017

Thanks Patrick, that explains the heavy clutch action with 1.25 centres, I bought a pair of Amal replicas that have a 7/8 gap and will fit those!

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