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650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by michael_addison at February 12. 2017

Afternoon folks.

I have a new wiring harness which I believe to be for a 1964 650 SS which I am restoring.

I have tried to attach a photograph of the harness in order that some body may be able to identify it for me but the Attachments section keeps telling me it is too large.

If somebody who thinks they may be able to identify it could e mail me at mickaddison@outlook.com I would be grateful and I could then send that person a photograph through the normal e mail channels .

Many thanks, Mick

Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by Tony Ripley at February 14. 2017

Here are the pictures Mick sent me,

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Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by Tony Ripley at February 14. 2017

and the second one

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Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by howard_robinson at February 15. 2017

Previously michael_addison wrote:

Afternoon folks.

I have a new wiring harness which I believe to be for a 1964 650 SS which I am restoring.

I have tried to attach a photograph of the harness in order that some body may be able to identify it for me but the Attachments section keeps telling me it is too large.

If somebody who thinks they may be able to identify it could e mail me at mickaddison@outlook.com I would be grateful and I could then send that person a photograph through the normal e mail channels .

Many thanks, Mick

Hiyah Mick - Looks much the same as one on my Mercury.  So a 12v twin coil set up as per 66/67 650 SS.  The coils would go in between oil tank and batter carrier and the condensors in front of the tool tray.  Rectifier under the tool tray and Zenner diode on the petrol tank r/h mounting bolt on an s bracket with twin cooling fins. The twin contact breakers fit in a special assembly with advance /retard unit supported on two bearings.  The alternator and horn wiring is standard fare.  The switch mounts on fork plate between the two clocks and is the 88SA type .  Late Atlas's also used this set up.  If you're fitting a magneto instead of the coils system tie back the additional wiring and run an extra wire from the mag to the handlebar kill button.  Regards and good luck, Howard

Looking at it again I note that the rear mudguard section is not included nor the brake light section.  The single white wire looks like it is for a magneto kill purpose.  So the harness probably isn't intended for a "coil" version though obviously if you have the ignition switch located above the oil tank you can add the coil wiring as appropriate.  Cheers, Howard

 

Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by michael_addison at February 15. 2017

Previously howard_robinson wrote:

Previously michael_addison wrote:

Afternoon folks.

I have a new wiring harness which I believe to be for a 1964 650 SS which I am restoring.

I have tried to attach a photograph of the harness in order that some body may be able to identify it for me but the Attachments section keeps telling me it is too large.

If somebody who thinks they may be able to identify it could e mail me at mickaddison@outlook.com I would be grateful and I could then send that person a photograph through the normal e mail channels .

Many thanks, Mick

Hiyah Mick - Looks much the same as one on my Mercury.  So a 12v twin coil set up as per 66/67 650 SS.  The coils would go in between oil tank and batter carrier and the condensors in front of the tool tray.  Rectifier under the tool tray and Zenner diode on the petrol tank r/h mounting bolt on an s bracket with twin cooling fins. The twin contact breakers fit in a special assembly with advance /retard unit supported on two bearings.  The alternator and horn wiring is standard fare.  The switch mounts on fork plate between the two clocks and is the 88SA type .  Late Atlas's also used this set up.  If you're fitting a magneto instead of the coils system tie back the additional wiring and run an extra wire from the mag to the handlebar kill button.  Regards and good luck, Howard

Looking at it again I note that the rear mudguard section is not included nor the brake light section.  The single white wire looks like it is for a magneto kill purpose.  So the harness probably isn't intended for a "coil" version though obviously if you have the ignition switch located above the oil tank you can add the coil wiring as appropriate.  Cheers, Howard

Many thanks to Tony Ripley for downsizing my photographs.


Thanks Howard for your very illustrative account; my bike is a 1964 650 SS with magneto . I will have to dig out the receipt for it and see if I can get it changed.

 

Cheers  Mick

 

Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by michael_addison at February 15. 2017

Previously michael_addison wrote:

Previously howard_robinson wrote:

Previously michael_addison wrote:

Afternoon folks.

I have a new wiring harness which I believe to be for a 1964 650 SS which I am restoring.

I have tried to attach a photograph of the harness in order that some body may be able to identify it for me but the Attachments section keeps telling me it is too large.

If somebody who thinks they may be able to identify it could e mail me at mickaddison@outlook.com I would be grateful and I could then send that person a photograph through the normal e mail channels .

Many thanks, Mick

Hiyah Mick - Looks much the same as one on my Mercury.  So a 12v twin coil set up as per 66/67 650 SS.  The coils would go in between oil tank and batter carrier and the condensors in front of the tool tray.  Rectifier under the tool tray and Zenner diode on the petrol tank r/h mounting bolt on an s bracket with twin cooling fins. The twin contact breakers fit in a special assembly with advance /retard unit supported on two bearings.  The alternator and horn wiring is standard fare.  The switch mounts on fork plate between the two clocks and is the 88SA type .  Late Atlas's also used this set up.  If you're fitting a magneto instead of the coils system tie back the additional wiring and run an extra wire from the mag to the handlebar kill button.  Regards and good luck, Howard

Looking at it again I note that the rear mudguard section is not included nor the brake light section.  The single white wire looks like it is for a magneto kill purpose.  So the harness probably isn't intended for a "coil" version though obviously if you have the ignition switch located above the oil tank you can add the coil wiring as appropriate.  Cheers, Howard

Many thanks to Tony Ripley for downsizing my photographs.


Thanks Howard for your very illustrative account; my bike is a 1964 650 SS with magneto . I will have to dig out the receipt for it and see if I can get it changed.

 

Cheers  Mick

 

Howard.

For some strange reason your last paragraph did not appear on the section I read. I have now noticed it so it would appear the loom is correct for my bike.

 

Once again thanks folks.

Mick

 

Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at February 15. 2017

hello wrong wiring harness it the later types  1966 onward you need the Sa41 light switch type for Magneto and 3 wire alternator RM19  has My Norton Manxman has fitted  this was fitted on 650ss  from 1961 to September 1965 for 1966 year from then on the sa88 lighting  switch was used    PS  Haynes Norton Manuel has the wiring diagrams in the wrong year order !   

 

                   yours anna j

Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by Fritz Wettstein at February 16. 2017

Here are alle the diagramms I've found in my manuals

Fritz

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Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at February 16. 2017

well its the 1964  Manxman export   they did not exist  in 1964  the Manxman is late 1960 /61  only     and like the ss of late 61 to 62/63   have the Sa41 lighting switch    So Haynes has this printed wrongly,  yours   anna j

Re: 650 SS Wiring Harness

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at February 16. 2017

So the wiring harness you have is for 1964  on ward   12volt   yours anna j

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