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Wideline frame ID help

Posted by james_ferdinando at October 07. 2011

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by Skip Brolund at October 09. 2011

This post by James is blank on my computer?

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at October 09. 2011

Previously wrote:

This post by James is blank on my computer?

Hello yes you are right eugene   There and blank space on my computer too ??????

 

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by james_ferdinando at October 09. 2011

Hi - is blank now but wasn't before.....gremils have got to it!!

Anyway - the Triton wideline frame I have, has 'R.McK 1954' stamped on it and has some small differences that a normal road featherbed. Can anybody shed any light on this frame?

The frame is on a Triton I just brought and it was put together in 1984 (when it was registered). There are no other numbers on the frame that I can see (it looks like powder coat) but it is different than another road wideline frame I have. The diagonal seat tubes (not sure of the proper name) are much thinner guage tube and the seat has a curved bracket supporting it (see pics). I have noticed that the seat tubes also have two rougher patches on them in exactly the same place both sides - looks like the number plate brackets were removed at some point, and also there is a flatter section on the front of the headstock that looks again like it may have had a fairing bracket removed.

[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me065.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me066.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me067.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me069.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me072.jpg[/img]


I will try and contact the NOC and try and get some more information.

Thanks again

Jamie

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by anna jeannette Dixon at October 10. 2011

Previously wrote:

Hi - is blank now but wasn't before.....gremils have got to it!!

Anyway - the Triton wideline frame I have, has 'R.McK 1954' stamped on it and has some small differences that a normal road featherbed. Can anybody shed any light on this frame?

The frame is on a Triton I just brought and it was put together in 1984 (when it was registered). There are no other numbers on the frame that I can see (it looks like powder coat) but it is different than another road wideline frame I have. The diagonal seat tubes (not sure of the proper name) are much thinner guage tube and the seat has a curved bracket supporting it (see pics). I have noticed that the seat tubes also have two rougher patches on them in exactly the same place both sides - looks like the number plate brackets were removed at some point, and also there is a flatter section on the front of the headstock that looks again like it may have had a fairing bracket removed.

[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me065.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me066.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me067.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me069.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me072.jpg[/img]


I will try and contact the NOC and try and get some more information.

Thanks again

Jamie

Hello James this frame too me looks like a re-production frame  Number Frame Number should be on the left hand gusset , Not the Right hand gusset like in the Photo bucket , there should be a number along  the lug that holds the head steady, near the head stock  , Hope this may help you in some way ?

 

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by robert_tuck at October 10. 2011

Previously wrote:

Hi - is blank now but wasn't before.....gremils have got to it!!

Anyway - the Triton wideline frame I have, has 'R.McK 1954' stamped on it and has some small differences that a normal road featherbed. Can anybody shed any light on this frame?

The frame is on a Triton I just brought and it was put together in 1984 (when it was registered). There are no other numbers on the frame that I can see (it looks like powder coat) but it is different than another road wideline frame I have. The diagonal seat tubes (not sure of the proper name) are much thinner guage tube and the seat has a curved bracket supporting it (see pics). I have noticed that the seat tubes also have two rougher patches on them in exactly the same place both sides - looks like the number plate brackets were removed at some point, and also there is a flatter section on the front of the headstock that looks again like it may have had a fairing bracket removed.

[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me065.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me066.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me067.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me069.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/Badgerman_bucket/me072.jpg[/img]


I will try and contact the NOC and try and get some more information.

Thanks again

Jamie           

 

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by robert_tuck at October 10. 2011

It would appear that the frame could be one that Rex McCandles made or modified.

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by james_ferdinando at October 10. 2011

Thanks all - the number appears on both the right and left sides in the same place. I will take the tank off tomorrow and have a look at the headsteady lug.

Is there any way of telling for sure who made / modified the frame, do the NOC have all the records of all 'genuine' frames made?

Thanks again

Jamie

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by john_whiting at October 11. 2011

In 1984 BSA[the ghost of ]were knocking out replica featherbed frames,as well as mopeds,I think Mr K Sprayson may have been involved.There were also a lot of other replicas on the market,made from everything from chromemoly to old gaspipe.Regards John.

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by neil_glover at September 04. 2017
Hi There might anyone have more details on this bike - im now considering purchasing her. the Frame # appears to be RMcK 1954 - there is a ser # that is not recognised by Norton. appreciate any help. V best Neil

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by john_hall1 at September 11. 2017

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by john_hall1 at September 11. 2017

Previously robert_tuck wrote:

It would appear that the frame could be one that Rex McCandles made or modified.

I wouldn't have thought that because McCandless, is spelt like this with a C, He would not have used a "K" surely unless, it was a known personal Trade Mark of his!

 

I would look for another Celtic named individual, unless someone was being clever using the "Son of" ID as in Mc?

 

Cheers

 

John H

Re: Wideline frame ID help

Posted by Jonathan Soons at September 13. 2017

It looks like a good Manx reproduction. The way the seat tubes join the main loops is different from a regular wideline.

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