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Craven rack on ES2

Posted by George Phillips at September 10. 2017
Has anyone any experience of the Craven "W" rack on a swinging arm pre-featherbed ES2? Cheers, George

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by ian_goodhall at September 10. 2017

I have one on mine. It looks right. I bought it used off Ebay before Craven started making them again. Made my own fittings for it.

This is a picture before I painted the brackets. Not the greatest picture.

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Posted by George Phillips at September 11. 2017
Thanks for the response, Ian. I was rather hoping that Craven supply everything needed to fit it. I don't have tremendous facilities for making stuff. George

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by ian_goodhall at September 12. 2017

I've taken a better picture. Craven may should do some sort of fittings. Carrier isn't much good without them.

Ian

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Posted by bob_johnson at September 12. 2017

Hi George

I have a Craven rack and top box in the loft that I took off a Commando about 15 years ago. If you are interested I could go up and take a few photos and if you think it would be of use to you I'm sure we could come to some sort of agreement.

If you are within striking distance of the Stafford area you would be welcome to come and have a look.

Regards

Bob

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by Julian Wells at September 13. 2017

I'm a bit concerned that the whole of any load on the carrier would appear to be routed through the mudguard and its mountings given that there aren't any stays to (say) somewhere near the bottom of the rear subframe.

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by Ian MacDougall at September 13. 2017

Your concern is justified. Rear guards on these models have been known to fail just above the lower mounting bolts (behind the gearbox). Load on the carrier stresses the guard in one direction, lifting the bike onto the centre stand stresses it in the other direction. It might be OK for waterproofs and a light lunch but a rack that size will be also be used for heavier stuff. I think Craven recommend bracing to the pillion footrest mounts.

Ian McD

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Posted by Barry Carson at September 13. 2017

  there should be thick reinforcing plates welded inside the mudguard that run around each side of the mudguard edge to help support the weight.

 

Barry

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by ian_goodhall at September 13. 2017

Mine doesn't have the hinged mudguard, which makes it stronger, and heaviest thing I carry is a U lock and waterproofs. So far so good.

Ian

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by Barry Carson at September 13. 2017

the rack in the photos looks well made. it looks hefty enough to put anything on.

 

Barry

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by George Phillips at September 14. 2017
Thanks guys. Good responses. Ian G - do you grab the rack to get the bike onto the c/stand? Bob J - I'm halfway down Cornwall but thanks for your kind offer. Not sure anyway whether a Commando rack would fit an ES2 without some massive fettling. Ian McD - yes, I think I've heard that a supporting brace is needed but it must look a bit naff. It's a long way from the rack to the rear pegs. I'm beginning to wonder whether the negatives outweigh the positives. G

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by ian_goodhall at September 15. 2017

No I don't use the rack to pull it on to it's centre stand. Here's my method.

Left hand on left handle bar. Right hand holding the bar on left side of rear mudguard. Push stand down with right foot and push right side of lower right leg against front of pillion footrest. Then at the same time press leg backwards against pillion rest while toe holds stand in place and lift with right hand. Mine goes onto the stand fairly easily then.

Ian

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by George Phillips at September 15. 2017
It's a bit off-topic but I could argue that it's my thread........but because I started with rear wheel stands I tend to put my left foot behind the centre stand and both hands on the rear mudguard bar then heave and lift. Not very efficient and hurts my back! George

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by ian_goodhall at September 15. 2017

Blimey George, how often do these threads stay on topic? Laughing

Your centre stand method does sound like a recipe for a bad back so can see why you want a reliable side stand.

Ian

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by christopher_winsby at September 16. 2017

There is a place called Classic bike racks who make racks

in stainless steel. Nice welding but all use bad methods of mounting unless you  carry something light. Craven use to supply supports to triagulate to the rear foot rests if any weight was intended to be carried.

I sympathise on the lifting, I have to remove one pannier to lift my Commando on to center stand. On bad days it the garage I use the electric hoist to lift it on to stand or on to the bike lift.

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by robert_tuck at September 16. 2017

On the 99 I use the Craven carrier to lift the back of the bike if it needs moving,no problem, but then it does not have a "bendy frame"!.

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by christopher_winsby at September 16. 2017
Have a look at the craven site. The L rack with pannier support is the best system.

Re: Craven rack on ES2

Posted by George Phillips at September 16. 2017
Thanks Chris. I've seen that one. Not sure how well it fits and ES2?
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